Sid Roth - These People Visit Heaven and See Each Other There
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with David Herzog. I mean you can't turn on television without some weight loss thing, but what happens when a young Jewish man that had a radical experience in a place in Jerusalem called the upper room, he literally says God came into his presence and his life was transformed. And then he gets up and he just speaks like lots of people about his experience and something comes into the auditorium, its sort of like a tangible glory or presence of God comes in, and people stand up and they say I have instantly lost weight. You said, "Oh come on Sid, this is stretching it". All right, lets go to a celebration in Jerusalem at the feast of tabernacles and witness someone instantly losing weight.
Sid Roth: This is outrageous. I mean this just doesn't happen. But you're telling me this is happening quite often. What is the most number of people that have supernaturally, instantly lost weight at one meeting?
David Herzog: In Las Vegas of all places, the first night it was amazing Sid, the first night twenty people lost weight, about five dress sizes, all twenty of them. We've got pictures of that too.
Sid Roth: I bet you were packed the next night in the meeting.
David Herzog: Yeah, it was the best show in town.
Sid Roth: Come on now, between you and me David. I've got to know you: you're a nice young man, why would God do this?
David Herzog: I think because people are overweight and they need it.
Sid Roth: Yeah, but I open my Bible and I don't see anything about instant weight loss.
David Herzog: Well it does say in the last days there will be signs and wonders and it says I go to be with the father, greater things you'll see. So I think we are seeing the greater things of the last days. It says there will be new signs and wonders in the last days.
Sid Roth: I'll tell you what I have found, that when a miracle occurs, something that defies natural laws, it grabs someone's attention. And the purpose is not the miracle, although it might sound that way to you. No, no, no, no, no. This thing called life is just the blink of the eye. The purpose of the miracle is to let you know there is a personal Creator that cares about according to the Bible about every hair on your head. David, speaking about every hair on your head i, I'm almost, I'm almost afraid to ask the question, but I will, have any people gotten hair instantly when you've been speaking?
David Herzog: Yeah. We've had creative miracles of totally bald people getting hair on their heads within minutes inside the meetings, and also hair color. People would have gray hair, white hair, and their hair turns back and the roots to the original hair color.
Sid Roth: Now question. Can you make this happen?
David Herzog: No, I can't do anything, it's all God. It's a certain presence or glory comes in the room, and when that presence comes in, the glory of God, then at that moment, God will give me the liberty many times to begin just to declare, "Someone here is losing weight, someone here is"...
Sid Roth: Now do you hear that, or you just, when you sense the glory you know you can say that and God will do it? Which is it?
David Herzog: No, sometimes I'll sense it but I don't feel the release to say that, that he's doing that. So it's really hearing God when he wants to do what. It's really having to be close with God and hear what he wants to do.
Sid Roth: Give me your spin if you will, because I hear this term a lot glory - what does this mean to you?
David Herzog: Glory to me is pretty much the level of the presence of God that's in the room. You can have a lower level of God's presence and the bigger miracles don't happen. You can have a greater presence where it is so strong in there, any atheist would walk in there and say something's in this room, and there's a heavier glory and there's a lighter glory. The heavier, the kabod like in Hebrew, the weight of God's glory, the heavier and intense the glory, the greater it seems the miracles flow.
Sid Roth: Answer this question if you can, I read the New Testament and I see miracles, I mean you take miracles out of the New Testament and you don't have the New Testament, but you go to most good congregations world- wide and you don't see miracles. What did the first congregation have that's missing today?
David Herzog: Well, they had several things. First of all they were reading from the old, what we call the Old Testament, so they're preaching the Old Testament but with Jesus in their hearts and they have New Testament miracles. Most churches don't read the old, they preach from the new, trying to get New Testament miracles. So that's one thing. The other thing is, a difference is in those days they praised and worshipped the Lord differently than we do today. Praised and worshipped, they fasted and prayed, they gave sacrificially to the Lord: there was a spirit of holiness and the fear of the Lord. All of these elements when you combine them together they're like different gases that cause an explosion of God's glory.
Sid Roth: Would it be proper to say that what David was saying is from the tAnakh, or the old covenant? There are principles that have never changed, and when you shed the new covenant understanding of, I might add, the only Bible the first Christian church had was not the New Testament, it was the tAnakh, the Jewish scriptures or what is called the old covenant, and when the light of Yeshua, Jesus, shines on the book that was the only Bible the first congregation had, miracles erupt. Interesting thought to ponder. We'll be right back after this word.
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with David Herzog. And this young man has seen more miracles he's literally, although he's Jewish, he's not, you're not supposed to do this David, I want you to know. It's the gentile Christians that's supposed to provoke the Jew to jealousy. But he said something in that first segment that I hope you picked up on. I said, "Why that first congregation, the first believers in Jesus, why did they have so many miracles? And we don't seem to have so many miracles today". And of course God said he doesn't change. So David said yeah, there was some changes. The first church used the Jewish scriptures with a new covenant understanding. What did you mean by that David?
David Herzog: Well, basically they took the Old Testament and they had Jesus, Yeshua, in their hearts. The Old Testament scriptures with Yeshua the Messiah fulfilling it, when you combine together, you get explosions of God's power. It re-triggers the miracles you see with Moses, and the glory and everybody being healed, Elijah raising the dead. It re-triggers it in the new, but even greater.
Sid Roth: You know I see something new coming David, what you're aware of, and it's not religion, it is an anointing, a presence of God on Jewish people. And an anointing, a presence of, a presence of God on gentile Christians, and when the two come together in Jesus it forms the full body of Messiah. And it's as if we Jewish people have to bring something to the church. And the church is deficient without this. And gentile Christians have to bring something to the church, and we Jewish people are deficient without it. But when we two come together, not in an ecumenical fashion, but I mean where that middle wall of separation comes down and we become one in the spirit, I believe we are going to see the greatest explosion. But when we see Jewish people come to the Lord, that's almost a sign for us that this time is about ready to happen. And I know what you saw in Israel and I recently got back from Israel, and I saw fifty, in two meetings, fifty Israelis make first time profession's of faith through Jesus.
David Herzog: That's incredible.
Sid Roth: So that tells me we're at that sign. Now another thing about you that provokes me to jealousy, you're not supposed to do this David, you know, but another thing about is you're, not only have you gone to heaven, not only have you gone to heaven, but you've prayed for people that go to heaven. Tell me about that.
David Herzog: On our last trip to Israel the Lord said to me, God "Go to Bethel, the place where Jacob's ladder opened up in the Bible in Genesis". So we found Bethel but we couldn't find the exact spot. Nobody knows where it is. But we found the exact, exact location where the settlers are. We went to Iraq, a concrete place, began praying worshipping the Lord. I told people...
Sid Roth: That's where angels were going up and down the ladder for Yacob, Jacob.
David Herzog: Yeah, recently archeologists discovered that's the exact location. We didn't know it, we just found a spot, left the place, saw a sign with a ladder on it, and found that it was the exact, exact location. And in that spot people on our team, it was incredible, were taken to heaven. I told them relax, just lay down if you want on the floor, worship the Lord, and just see what happens. And we stayed there for like an hour or two, we all got sunburned, but after we got up people began to testify what they saw. And people saw each other in heaven.
Sid Roth: Explain that. I'm not sure I'm following you right now.
David Herzog: Sure. One of our workers that work with us, she went to heaven and saw the other team members. She thought she was there before the others
Sid Roth: Now did the other team members?
David Herzog: They saw her. Yes.
Sid Roth: Wow.
David Herzog: Another situation in Ghana a couple of years ago was, I had spiritual angels appear in my room
Sid Roth: Wait a second. You keep doing that David. You're provoking me to jealousy.
David Herzog: To make a long story short, we shared this testimony the next day to the bigger church and two people went to heaven, the pastor's daughter and her friend. And both, we could not get them out of this trance they were in, and both of them, when they came out of it told the exact same story without talking to each other. They talked about the same conversation together in heaven with Jesus. They were together in heaven. And so this is happening more and more, third heaven encounters where people are taken to heaven like Paul had, are transported, different things like this are happening more and more in these days.
Sid Roth: Now we've been talking about very unusual signs that accompany when you speak. Tell me about the diamonds.
David Herzog: Ah, interesting. Yeah a lot of women will be watching now wanting to know about this. We have meetings that in the meetings we'll be worshipping the Lord and the presence will be really strong and people will suddenly begin to find diamonds on the floor, perfectly cut diamonds.
Sid Roth: Now are these just things that look like diamonds? Or are they...
David Herzog: No. These are perfectly cut, perfectly cut diamonds.
Sid Roth: How do you know they're diamonds?
David Herzog: We've had Jewelers in the meetings with their actual instruments and will analyze them right there on the spot and say they are real diamonds. We've had meeting where thirteen diamonds appeared in two days on the floor. So I don't know what a consequence that would be if thirteen people lost their diamond off their ring. That's just pretty amazing stuff.
Sid Roth: You've actually had people that have found money in their wallet.
David Herzog: Oh yeah, happens a lot.
Sid Roth: They, I mean, this is mind-blowing but how did they find money that wasn't there in their wallet?
David Herzog: We've had people find even in their bank accounts that was not deposited ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars appear. When the presence of God's glory is really strong, and in that moment people get up and get healed for instance, a cancer disappears, or goiters disappear. Teeth are recreated in those meetings. The same power is there to cause financial miracles. People that are in trouble many times will give an offering unto the Lord in those meetings while the glory is present and because the time element is diminished, the greater the glory the less time it takes for weight loss, for cancer, and so they'll give an offering to God in that element so the return from the Lord is so fast at times. There is a scripture that says the reaper overtakes the sower, people will literally look in their pockets and money will reappear, we've had that happen in Israel...
Sid Roth: Tell me one actual person.
David Herzog: A person that had that happen?
Sid Roth: Yeah. Not their name, but tell me what happened to them.
David Herzog: Okay. Ah, there's so many in my head. I know in Israel, we had many had it appear just right there in their purses and wallets, in Tel Aviv. But one man he had nothing and the Lord said, told him to give his watch to him. He had this nice watch and the Lord said, "Give it". So he just gave this watch to the Lord on the altar. And the next day, was it fifty thousand, I think it was Deutsch Marks in those days in Germany, this was in Germany, appeared in his bank account and he doesn't know how it got there. The bank doesn't know how it got there, but he, he didn't have a job, he was unemployed, and God just began to do supernatural miracles like in the time of Elijah with the widow.
Sid Roth: David, hold that thought. Guess what, the glory has just walked into the studio. We're going to be back, but just before we take our commercial break, let me tell you something, God has a commercial someone's neck was just healed. Just move your head. The pain in someone's back if you just bend over, the glory is in the studio right now and oh I heard something so wonderful, we'll be right back after this word.
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with David Herzog. And oh, I'm going to tell you something, the glory, the presence, the manifest presence of God has entered the studio. That means it's entering your home right now. And just as we had the break I saw someone, when I say I saw, I really didn't see, I heard that someone that has pain in their back, if you'll just bend over, you'll see that pain is gone. David, is God showing you anything?
David Herzog: Yeah, there's someone with kidney failure, God's healing kidneys right now. There's somebody with ulcers, God's dealing with ulcers right now, you've got pain in your stomach. I see all kind of, I see a weight loss, one persons losing, at least one is losing weight, your metabolism is increasing and you feel something shrinking on your stomach and your - stand up and just check your belt and see if it starts to get loser. There's all kind of miracles happening. I can go for a while.
Sid Roth: You know I had you on my radio show and the very first day, and no, I take it back. Before it even got on the air, it was on the internet, someone sent in that they got healed. So, yeah, continue.
David Herzog: Yeah. Yeah, there are more things happening. Right now there is someone, being healed, their hips are being healed right now.
Sid Roth: I heard the same thing.
David Herzog: Hips are being healed, hip replacement. There's a knee being healed right now, you are...
Sid Roth: Stop for a second you said hip replacement? What do you mean by that?
David Herzog: Yeah. I don't know, that's what I heard in the spirit.
Sid Roth: Oh, so I'll take it, I'll take it.
David Herzog: That's what he told me so I just say it, I'm just the messenger here.
Sid Roth: Okay, go ahead.
David Herzog: Someone, yeah someone needed a new hip and God is replacing the hip. And there is cartilage in the knees that God is recreating. You do not have any cartilage left, and I declare cartilage is being recreated right now in Yeshua's name, cartilage right now in your knees. And there is so many, you can go on, you can see them when you are in the spirit.
Sid Roth: I'm going to tell you something. I heard something before we took that break, and I've got to go there right now. There was a time when your father did not know God and you were at a meeting and all of a sudden you found yourself, not in heaven, which is everyone wants to go to, but in hell. David, what happened?
David Herzog: In this conference I was at, it was a youth group, we were at a youth camp, the evangelist said, "If you want to have a burden for your family to be saved, come up front". We went up front with all these youth, and suddenly we were transported to hell, it was like I was in hell. Everyone began screaming and, and just yelling no, and seeing their family members in hell. I saw my father in hell though he had not died. And I realized that he was about to go to hell. He was either about to get killed or something was going to happen to him. And I began weeping for him and I said, "No God". And I stopped praying for him is what happened. I told God I don't want to pray for him any more, he doesn't want to get saved.
Sid Roth: This was before this vision?
David Herzog: Yeah, before this vision.
Sid Roth: You had just stopped.
David Herzog: I told God I didn't want to pray anymore, I had tried eight years, you know, just leave me along.
Sid Roth: It's not doing any good.
David Herzog: Yeah, so I'll just leave him alone. And in that vision God said, "Pray now, or he's going to die". I began weeping and weeping and weeping, and interceding for my father. And in the vision I saw my dad look at me, he was burning and he said, "Son, why did you give up praying for me, I was this close". And i, it just devastated me, and i, and as I was praying I found out that same day, probably that same hour a little old lady came and knocked on the door. My dad was depressed that day, he didn't want to live anymore, and that lady led him to the Lord within, probably within those few hours. So as I saw hell, he was about to go there literally.
Sid Roth: Now when you saw hell, could you feel anything, could you smell anything, uh, I mean, how real was it to you?
David Herzog: Hell was a very dark place. I saw flames everywhere, and basically I saw my father, I was able to go and see my father burning, but the fire wouldn't extinguish his soul. So you'd be burning endlessly without
Sid Roth: Was he in real agony?
David Herzog: Agony. Yeah. He was screaming, you know it was over and over again. Burn, then it would stop, then you'd get re-burned again without dying. But the greatest agony was the spirit of hopelessness. It wasn't the physical pain, though it was a lot of physical pain, it was the realization that it was finished. You could no longer get out of there. And all your sins before you are forever in your mind, just total, utter hopelessness. And just, it was a place, at that moment I decided, Lord, God I want to do everything I can to win souls, to tell people about Jesus so they don't go to this place.
Sid Roth: Did you also learn something about not giving up?
David Herzog: Exactly. Yeah, I repented real quick for giving up on my father. And from that day on that brought the desire to see people know God in a powerful way, not a religious way but to see God operate in miracles, or love, or whatever it takes.
Sid Roth: All right. David, the presence of God is getting stronger, whatever, whatever God shows you to do, as Mary said at the wedding supper of Canaan, "Whatever he says, do it".
David Herzog: Okay. There are people watching right now and you are on the verge, you want to end your life, you want to just say, "Forget this whole life, I'm miserable, I'm depressed". God wants to let you know him right now. You could be in witchcraft, you could just be an atheist, in the new age, Jewish, muslim, doesn't matter what color, race, rich or poor, you can just simply pray a little prayer and know him right now. A simple prayer will connect you to the God of heaven, not religion but a relationship with God. So we can take a minute, or you can, however you want to do this.
Sid Roth: You can.
David Herzog: Okay. And we just pray right now. Say these words with me if you're watching. You can close your eyes if you want, you don't have to close your eyes. But say these words with me with your heart. And something, it will change inside your heart if you're watching. There's even a man watching, a muslim, I can see and you're tempted to be involved in some kind of terrorism because there's emptiness in your soul, but God loves you so much he wants to fill that emptiness with the God of love. Just pray this prayer with me everyone who is watching. Jesus, Yeshua, come in my heart, forgive me of my sin, I believe that you died on the cross for me, you were buried three days, and you rose from the dead - just repeat these words. Come and live inside of me, wash all the junk and the sin in my life away, and make me a new person, a new creature in you. Let me know the real God of Israel, the God of heaven. Let me feel your presence and fill me with your Holy Spirit, in Jesus name. And break every power of sin off my life. Amen. Now just stand there and just close your eyes a moment and just let his presence come upon you. Holy Spirit fill them right now with your power, with your presence, set them free, deliver them, and fill them with the fullness of the Holy Spirit right now. In Jesus name. Amen. I believe some people right now are getting saved. And even some people that were sick in their bodies, at salvation they'll get miracles happen to them.
Sid Roth: Well, I'm feeling such a wonderful presence of God right now. I believe that people are still being healed, for instance I heard there are people whose elbows had pain, if you will bend them back, back and forth, you'll see that that pain is gone. And why don't you do what king David said to do. This is what king David said in the Jewish scriptures, "I lift holy hands to God". You see this is a form of sacrifice, and begin to tell Jesus how much you love him. I feel him weeping for you right now because he sees that you are a man, you are a woman, you are a person of destiny, there is nothing that is going to stop you from fulfilling your destiny with God. And there is nothing that will allow you to fulfill your destiny without God. And there is no other name given unto men but the name of Jesus in which we must, must, must how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? So make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. God show me the truth that that's where you're at. Let's go all the way, it is your moment.