Sid Roth - End Time Prophetic Sign When This Man Visits Western Wall in Jerusalem
My guest went to Israel in his Mohawk Indian regalia. Then he found out that the rabbi said, "When a native American Indian comes to the Western Wall in Jerusalem it would be a sign, a sign of the beginning of the end". My guest was that man.
Sid Roth: I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jonathan Maracle, and when I hear the word "Maracle" I think of a miracle because that's your background. Now I called you, and you corrected me, I called native American, but you said you prefer to be called first nations. Why?
Jonathan Maracle: First nations is more a way of saying something that brings dignity and respect because native American, yes, it's America, Amerigo Vespucci, you know, but it doesn't really identify who were. Our people were here before the discovery of America. Actually, we discovered Columbus, but first nations people is a way that brings a new level of honor and respect back to our people.
Sid Roth: Now I was shocked, speaking of Columbus, when I found that the number of first Americans there were, pre-Columbus, and then after Columbus. Tell me those statistics.
Jonathan Maracle: Well from what I understand, by the year 1899 or '89, there was only 239,000 native people left on this continent, and when Columbus first came there was over 10 million.
Sid Roth: And you told me about one of the requirements of your people, which were a real peace-loving people, was to obtain gold. What would happen if they didn't bring their gold at the right time?
Jonathan Maracle: Their hands were cut off. They were told, mr. Columbus told them that if you go out and you find gold and if you come back, it was, I think it was every three months they were supposed to return and bring gold, and if they didn't come back with the pre-described amount that he wanted, he would cut their hands off.
Sid Roth: We don't read that in our history books.
Jonathan Maracle: No.
Sid Roth: I imagine there's a whole lot we don't. Now your last name is Maracle.
Jonathan Maracle: That's right.
Sid Roth: And your father walked in tremendous miracles. But when he first became a believer in Jesus, he was persecuted.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes. Well when he first became a believer it was pretty amazing because all his friends were getting saved around him. They were changed, their lives were changing and he didn't really understand why and he wanted to find out why. So he went down to find out, and he walked in to a room and a lady, you know, you can change your life right now and things can be a whole lot different for you. And something supernatural just took over in his life. And so he gave his heart, he gave his life in a new way.
Sid Roth: You saw miracles as a young child.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes.
Sid Roth: Tell me about the white eye.
Jonathan Maracle: There was a young boy, I think dad said that he was east Indian, and when he came in my father called the people up for prayer. It was a healing service and he called people up to be prayed for him, and this young boy came up and he stood in the row, and my father, as he was going out and praying for people, I mean, he was looking at a very visual situation because the little boy was standing and it was completely white eyes. And as he was...
Sid Roth: Was he able to see anything?
Jonathan Maracle: No, no, no.
Sid Roth: He had no pupils.
Jonathan Maracle: He was completely blind. He was born that way. And so when my dad was going down the row, I mean, he was praying for people and when he come to that little boy, it was a great challenge to him as he looked at the little boy and he saw. And you know what he said...
Sid Roth: It wasn't just a great challenge to him. It would be a great challenge to anyone.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes.
Sid Roth: I mean, can you picture that? Can you picture praying for someone with just white for eyes and they can't see, and you're supposed to pray, and they're going to get their vision back? Put yourself in that place.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes. So he's going down and he's praying for other people, and every time he came to that boy, he would say, 'God, how do you want me to deal with this? What do you want me to do'? And he went around him, and he prayed for other people, and when he came back he was speaking to the Holy Spirit, because that was his focus and he wanted to make it right. And finally, the Holy Spirit said to him, 'just tell him that when he wakes up, tomorrow morning when he sees the sunrise, he'll be able to see it. He'll be able to see the sunrise'. And so that next morning, that young boy and his mom sat on the front porch before sunrise and they watched, and when the sun peaked over the horizon, the mother looks at the boy and she didn't see any change, and she looked back, and the next time she looked back, dad said that he saw the sun, and he shouted, 'mommy, I can see it'! And so the neat thing about that was my dad was traveling from place to place. And he was in the next city where he was speaking, and as he was speaking to these people, the door of the church opened up in the back and this little boy ran all the way up to the front and jumped in my father's arms, and he could see. And his parents took him to the next city.
Sid Roth: I can't understand. I can't understand because Jonathan Maracle saw all of these miracles, but he had much more long hair than he has right now. He was a rock star. Everything was ready to happen. He wrote songs that were on TV shows like 'highway to heaven'. He was performing with such groups as rick derringer and Peter Frampton, and he had it made, but he was depressed, even suicidal. We'll be right back after this word. Don't go away.
Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Jonathan Maracle. He had it made. He's a rock star. He's got everything. He's out in Hollywood. They're talking records and promotion, and contracts. He's depressed, he's suicidal. Why are you depressed? This is what you were working for your whole life.
Jonathan Maracle: Well they told me, they said, they came and they listened to our band play right before we were signing the contracts, and they said, 'you know,' they said, 'you got to have connotations of evil in the music and talk about sex and booze, and drugs'. And I'm going, 'what? You know, why do I have to do that? I'm a native. I want to be able to sing about my people. I want to be able to talk about the good things of my people'. They said, 'that's fine as long as you put sex and booze, and drugs in there'. And I said, 'i don't want to'. And you know, I had chased this vision to be a rock star for 13 years, and I finally was in a place where it could have happened, but there was, I believe there was a point at which I could decide to sell my soul. I believe that that's where I was at. I believe I was at a decision, okay, I'm going to go for it, I'm going to represent whatever they want for my own selfish gain or I can make a decision to say no. And you know, I didn't know anything about religion or anything like that.
Sid Roth: Even though you were raised with that type of heritage?
Jonathan Maracle: I was trying to get away from it.
Sid Roth: You were running.
Jonathan Maracle: I was running. I was trying to get away from it because I saw hypocrites, and the hypocrites, the people who said they were but didn't live it were the ones that changed my, they made me not want to be because I didn't want to be like them.
Sid Roth: Well you were kind of estranged from your dad, also.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes.
Sid Roth: I mean, how long had it been since you talked to him?
Jonathan Maracle: I had talked to dad two and a half years prior to that, that moment.
Sid Roth: Okay. Why, what was the catalyst that made you so depressed at that moment?
Jonathan Maracle: Well I had left, there was a girl that I had been with for several years and because when they told me to move to Los Angeles that I needed to go down to Los Angeles and I was going to be signing a deal. And I left this girl that I had been with. I put all my eggs in the basket and went down there figuring my God, which was my rock and roll, was going to satisfy all my needs and make me happy, and make me, you know, great. And I went down there and when they told me this that I had to sing songs with connotations of evil and all this, and I began to realize that this wasn't what I wanted, and a real distaste came into me that I didn't want to be a part of that. And then I realized I had lost someone I loved and I was 3000 miles away from my family, and I just, I felt lonely. I felt depressed and I felt broken and I needed help. And the last thing my dad said to me before I left Canada, a little over three years before, I was getting on the bus, and he wouldn't let anybody else take me to the bus station. He says, 'Jonathan, when you're,' and I was climbing onto the bus, literally stepping up, I was on the second step, and I looked. He says, 'Jonathan'. I turned around and I looked at him and he said, 'when you're back's against the wall and you have nowhere to turn, you call out on the name of Jesus'. And I just looked at him and went pfft, and I climbed on the bus, because I mean, I was pumped. I was ready to go. I was a rock singer. I was arrogant and I climbed on, took my place on the bus, and rode for four days and five nights to Sacramento. It was a long trip. But then when I reached that final moment, I had been there almost three years and I had completely lost everything that i, the desire for anything that I was trying to do. I'm sitting in my chair and I was writing a song, a most depressed time. But you know, I was a capitalist, I guess, because you know what I did, whenever I was emotionally high or low that's when I tried to write a song, because then I could pen that emotion onto the paper. So here I am in the blues-ist attitude I've ever been in, I started writing this song. As I would play it back to myself, I got more depressed. And so I rolled up the paper and I threw it in the garbage, and I sat there, and I couldn't, I just, I was losing all hope. And those words came up like that in my spirit. Call out on the name of Jesus. I did. When I called out on the name of Jesus, it changed everything. Within ten minutes my father telephoned me and I hadn't talked to him in two and half years, and he said, 'son, I'm coming to see you in Sacramento'. And everything began to change.
Sid Roth: I mean, the timing of that was so amazing. But then the thing that is really...
Jonathan Maracle: I knew it wasn't a coincidence.
Sid Roth: Listen, the thing that was really weird is you pretty much resolved you'd never go into a church. So you went to visit your folks.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes.
Sid Roth: And he wanted you to go to church with him, and you didn't want to go. But why did you change your mind? Why did you go?
Jonathan Maracle: Well, you know, I needed love. I was desperate for love. And when I went to Florida and stayed with my mom and dad in their trailer, they had like a retreat place there, I stayed with them, when I got there, I said, 'look, I don't want any church. I don't want any, you know, Christianity. I don't want any of that. I just want to come and be with you, and know that I'm your son and just feel your love'. You know, and I told them, 'i need your love'. And when I was with them for the whole week and they went off to church. There was these crusades and they were going to church every night, you know, I didn't want anything to do with it. But the last day before I was supposed to leave on Monday, Sunday morning they were leaving for church and they just thought, well let's ask him and see if he's interested. So they said, 'Johnny, do you want to come to church with us'? And I thought, you know, they gave me an option. It wasn't like they were trying to force me or anything. So with the option, I said, 'sure, okay, what the heck,' kind of thing, you know. So I put on my clothes really quick, because they were all ready to go out the door when they asked. So we road to the church.
Sid Roth: You must be quite a sight with that long hair.
Jonathan Maracle: I'm sure I was and I'm sure I looked pretty distraught, too.
Sid Roth: But this woman grabs hold of you. Tell me about that.
Jonathan Maracle: Well I went inside the church. Mom and dad were like they understood. They weren't trying to prod me or anything like that. I don't know whether they were behind me or in front of me because I lost all touch with what was going on. I think, I'm guessing they probably went in and sat down. But I came in on my own time, and when I stepped inside the door, this little old lady, I'm guessing she was about 75 years old, don't know who she is, but I remember her. But I stepped inside the door and she just walked up to me. She put her arms around me and she said, 'i love you'. And I looked at her and I said, 'you love me? Why do you love me'? You know, and she said, 'because Jesus told me to, because you're his child and he loves you'. And I felt as though that moment that somebody had a warm bucket of oil, I can't describe it any better than that, and that they took this oil and they just poured it over my head, and it went down over my whole body, and I could just feel it coming down like that, and this warmth, and it just touched me from my head to my toes.
Sid Roth: Had you ever experienced anything like that before?
Jonathan Maracle: No, no, nothing like that. Well maybe when I was really high or really drunk something weird would happen. But I mean, I was sober.
Sid Roth: How wonderful was it?
Jonathan Maracle: It was the most incredible experience that I had up to that point in my life.
Sid Roth: Well you know what I believe? I believe that as you see first Americans and non-first Americans worship God in the first American way that oil, I'm telling you, I know this, be open and get expected, that oil that Jonathan has described, it's going to flow all over you.
Jonathan Maracle: Yes.
Sid Roth: Let's go to that meeting right now.
Jonathan Maracle: When the wind of the spirit blows, warrior come on and ride the wind. When the wind of the spirit blows, warrior come on and ride the wind. Way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-way-o-hi. Because the when you're in the spirit, you got God in control. The battle horn you don't hear it because the anointing makes you bold. When David meets the enemy he didn't listen to the words of man. But the Spirit of God rose up in him and Goliath fell at his hand. When the wind of the spirit blows, warrior come on and ride the wind. When the wind of the spirit blows, warrior come on and ride the wind. Way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-way-o-hi. Voice over...
Sid Roth: There's something supernatural that occurs. People start weeping when they hear your music now that was kind of upbeat, the title song. But when they weep, what's going on with them?
Jonathan Maracle: I believe there is something, I believe God is touching their inner man. I believe it's going back to the roots. You know, it's people being, looking back and saying, if I was created to be a first nations person, then why have I embraced another sin-stained culture and rejected who God created me to be. And I believe that as we have been playing the drum it's been calling first nations people from across the continent, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, way-o-hi, Ohio hay-o-i-hay-ohhhh-hio hi-o-ha, hi-oh-ha, hi-a-wayyy.
Sid Roth: Jonathan, that was fascinating. During that intermission you told me about a Navajo leader that had a word from God. It was so clear. When was that?
Jonathan Maracle: They said it happened in the early 1900s. And he was an elder of the Navajo nation, and he got a word that there was going to be a man, a native man that was going to come from the east and he was going to bring a drum, and when he played the drum in the Navajo nation it was going to bring a change among the people, a spiritual change among the people. And I was honored when a Navajo man, a leader came to me about a year ago in st. Louis, Missouri, right near there, and brought me a beautiful gift, a turquoise necklace, and honored me, and said that when I came to their village, when I came to their place, that when I played the drum and sang it released something among their people. He said, and there's been an exponential growth of people realizing the truth about the spirit of Jesus and how he can touch their lives and change them. And you know, that's an honor to me to be one who walked in the fulfillment of a prophecy of our people, the traditional ones. Many people think that traditional native people don't know God. But I mean, our people literally did understand that they had a choice between good and evil, and when they followed the one who created them, they were following the same God. I believe it.
Sid Roth: Explain something to me. There is a supernatural quality to drums. I don't understand why. I mean, I believe there's more of a something happening the inside of people when they hear the drums as any other instrument. Why is that?
Jonathan Maracle: When I play the drum, I play the drum to be the heartbeat of the father. The drum is an instrument where you can have six, eight, ten people sitting around the drum and you're all playing the same beat. There is a special unity that comes from the drum and when it's played and it's a beat, it's like the heartbeat, it calls to the people. It calls people in. I mean, hundreds and hundreds of people will come in around one drum when there's eight guys playing it and lifting up the name of our father.
Sid Roth: Now you picked up the very special miracle power that was placed on your father. It came on you. Tell me one miracle that came, comes to mind where you've prayed for someone.
Jonathan Maracle: I was in rochester recently where some people prayed over me and said that God had placed a great anointing in my life and to walk in it, to begin to exercise that anointing. And that very same day I had the opportunity to walk in that anointing. I walked into a hospital in Kingston, Ontario where one of my, a friend that I had known over the years, a musician who had actually played with me in bands and stuff, he had had a heart attack, I believe that's what it was, and they opened him up and did heart surgery on him. And he got a bacterial infection in his sternum, and this infection went through his body, shut down his organs. I mean, he was on kidney dialysis. He was on a breathing apparatus. He was on whatever it took to keep him alive as he lay there. And his mom contacted me and I was the only non-family person allowed to go in that room and there was nobody there when I got there. And so I went in and I was standing beside him, and I was praying, and I was asking God to show me what to do. And God said to 'operate in the authority I've placed in your life through Jesus'. And I'm standing there, and I walked over to the other side of the bed because the nurse and the doctor needed to do something with their apparatus, and I came over to the other side. As I got there, the Holy Spirit said, 'just speak my life into him'. And I leaned over and I said, 'i speak the life of God into you'. And his whole body jumped off the bed like this and landed back on the bed. And it scared the living daylights out of me because...
Sid Roth: You're not just using an expression of speech. That body lifted.
Jonathan Maracle: That body went jump, like he did one of those.
Sid Roth: What happened to him?
Jonathan Maracle: Well he landed back there.
Sid Roth: Basically, what happened?
Jonathan Maracle: That day, that night his organs kicked in. Without having to have any mechanical motivation his organs kicked and how he is teaching drum lessons and leading worship.
Sid Roth: Do you remember that first nation man, that one that wanted to be a rock star, but he wasn't willing to pay the price, sell his soul question is, are you willing to sell your soul for a moment of fame and an eternity of shame? Are you willing to sell your soul for a moment of fame for an eternity of shame? I tell you that God loves you as much as that man in the hospital that was dying, that was supernaturally healed. But there is a healing so deep inside of you. There's a wound inside of you that only God can fill and you haven't gone too far from God. It's not too late. You're watching me because God has an everlasting love for you and I believe that as you tell God that you're sorry for your sins, you believe the blood of Jesus washes them away and make Jesus your Messiah and Lord that there will be a healing deep in your soul. As you hear the drumbeat, it's not just drumbeats, it's the Spirit of God that is going to go into you deeper and deeper, and deeper, and deeper, and deeper. Play those drums now.