Sid Roth - Angel Waits 80 Years to Finish His Assignment with Cal Pierce
Sid Roth:Hello, I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter. An angel that helped spread healing so that a city was actually named the healthiest city in the United States. I have Cal and Michelle Pierce here. And Cal, tell me about what happened in this particular city.
Cal Pierce:Well John Lake came to Spokane in 1915, and from 1915 to 1920, he put together a team of men and women that he called healing technicians that prayed for the sick in the city of Spokane, and in that five-year period there were 100,000 documented healings in the city.
Sid Roth:What happened with the hospitals?
Cal Pierce:Well the hospitals weren’t real excited about this because the sick decided that it was better to go let Jesus do the work in their body rather than go to the hospital and receive surgery and a bill.
Sid Roth:No question. But I want to find out something about you because I know that that same angel that released all those miracles accompanies you now. So I'd like to find out about the two of you. Cal, you had a son, David, very special son, and Michelle tell me about David.
Michelle Pierce:Well David was born with muscular dystrophy and when he was about 16, he was always a Christian, but when he was 16, he just got on fire for God.
Sid Roth:What caused that?
Michelle Pierce:I don't know. He had been reading his Word, but all of a sudden he just wanted to read it more and more. He was like reading ten chapters a day and then praying. He just sought God and he loved the Lord. We believe he was an intercessor for God because he would just pray.
Sid Roth:Was there any one specific thing you can think of he prayed for?
Michelle Pierce:Well towards the end he was really deep in prayer and one time Cal came and asked him specifically what he was praying for, and he got tears in his eyes. He said he was praying for Russia, that they were studying in school and he said he was praying for the Communists to lose their power, to fall.
Sid Roth:Well they did.
Michelle Pierce:They did.
Sid Roth:How much before that did he pray?
Michelle Pierce:It was like a month or two later that the Berlin Wall came down.
Sid Roth:Wow. Talk about an instant answer to prayer.
Michelle Pierce:Yes, it got our attention.
Sid Roth:Cal, there was one time you caught your son weeping. Tell me about that.
Cal Pierce:Well he was in the hallway and he was crying. And Michelle came up, Michelle and I went up to him and said, "David, why are you crying"? And he said, "Because I had a bad thought". And you know, that just crushed me because I thought of all the bad thoughts that I had had that never bothered me. But yet, this young man was so pressing into God, a young man that could only move his head and his hands, but yet he was so hungry for the Lord that he would spend all of his time just seeking God and praying, and he was a prayer warrior. My wife and I were sort of what you might say stuck into this religious spirit where we weren't really pressing into God. We were watching television and things like that, and not really...
Sid Roth:Wait a second now. In Redding, California, you were an elder.
Cal Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:In a fine church.
Cal Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:And one day they got a new pastor.
Cal Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:And something amazing happened to you. Tell me about that.
Cal Pierce:Well that was in January of 1996. And I was at the point where, you know, I was, like you say, an elder, a board member. I tell people now I was probably the most bored board member the church had. And I would only be there on Sunday morning because I wasn't studying as I should be. I wasn't praying, pressing in. And we got this new pastor, his name was Bill Johnson, at Bethel Church, and he was crying out for a revival, and things were starting to happen around the church, around the city where he was having meetings. And I told my wife, I said, "Honey, those are the meetings we're not going to," because I didn't want to go where things were happening, you know. I was in a dry and thirsty land. But then Bill had a meeting that he sent a letter out to all the leadership and he sent a letter to us, and Michelle brought it to me because it said on there that you are required to go if you're in leadership. So I kind of relented. It was in what we call the upper room behind the sanctuary and there was about a hundred people there. And we sang four or five praise and worship songs. We were standing and the next thing I knew, we finished singing and Bill just simply raised his hands and said, "Come Holy Spirit". And that was the last thing I remember. It was like the lights had gone out. I don't know what that meeting was about for everyone else, but I knew about the meeting that I had. It literally ignited my heart, soul.
Sid Roth:Did someone touch you? Did someone pray for you?
Cal Pierce:No. We were just standing there.
Sid Roth:We? Did this happen to you, too?
Michelle Pierce:Yes. I ended up on the floor. He stood.
Cal Pierce:It was as if I was glued to the floor. I wanted to run, jump, shout. It was just wave after wave of God's anointing coursing through my body and it literally set a fire in me that would not go out. It just ignited my very heart and soul, and that's what began a call in my life. Before, it was my life, after that it was my life given to God. It was every, all I could do was serve him. I didn't, I no longer wanted my program.
Sid Roth:Now when you looked at your son David, you probably wondered, how could he even be like that? Well maybe because he's paralyzed that's why he's that way. But I guess you never thought in your wildest imagination you could be that way.
Cal Pierce:No. Because when we were, when I was going by David's door night after night we had been watching TV, I'd hear him in there crying out to God. And my cry was, "God, how can I know you like David"? I said, "God, I want to have a heart for you like my son". You know, and then when this happened it was like, it was like God just poured into me that heart of David. I began to have a passion and a thirst, and I could not sit still. In that year and a half that this happened, after this happened, I probably read more about revival and about healing than I did in my entire life including college.
Sid Roth:So you read books especially about famous men of God. And one in particular attracted you, John G. Lake, who had 100,000 miracles in Spokane at a particular place, and he was buried there in a healing room. And why did you decide to relocate there?
Cal Pierce:Well you know, during this year and a half I felt stirred. We grew up in Redding. We were going to retire and do our thing there. But after a year and a half of this fire that had come into my life, I finally told my wife, I said, "Honey, I got to go north". I did not even think about John Lake at this time. I just, there was a stirring in me to go north. I finally told her, "Honey, I'm going to go for three days". She said, "Where are you going"? I said, "Well up to Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, my folks had been there visiting one time, told me about it. That was the only connection. I was teaching a class on healing before I left and I told the class I wouldn't be there the following Sunday, and someone said, who had John Lake's, the book that the Copeland's wrote about John Lake and they mentioned, hey, that's where John Lake is from, and I thought, that's right.
Sid Roth:And that changed both of you. I mean, your lives have never been the same. We'll be right back after this word.
Sid Roth:Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter and I'm here with Cal and Michelle Pierce. And something happened in their life so supernatural. Cal started reading a book on the life of John G. Lake, who had over 100,000 documented miracles in Spokane, Washington. And Cal, so you told your wife one day, we're moving to Spokane. How did you take that?
Michelle Pierce:Well I knew, it was all right. I mean, it was a difficult move. I had lived my whole life in Redding. But I knew it was time. And so I just transferred with my job and we moved up there.
Sid Roth:Now you prayed for over a year at the gravesite of John G. Lake. Why did you do that? What was your motivation?
Cal Pierce:I just felt drawn there. It just, there was just something in me that because of the burden for healing and this man who knew how to touch the Holy Spirit, you know, and I just went there to seek God. It wasn't about John Lake. It was about Jesus and the presence of the Holy Spirit and the anointing. I wanted to see that fire, that power once again poured out because I knew God hasn't changed. He's still the same.
Sid Roth:How did you get the idea then from praying all that time and fasting all that time to reopen the healing room that John G. Lake had?
Cal Pierce:Well after praying for a year and three months and pressing in, and Heaven seemed to be brass at times, and the Holy Spirit prompted me to fast for 40 days, and when I did that, the Holy Spirit said, "You know there's a time to pray and there's a time to move, and this is the time to move". He said, "If you want to walk on the water you got to get out of the boat". So I said, okay, I'll do it. So we called together intercessors and had a day of intercessory prayer and that began to start the whole work.
Sid Roth:How did you even find that room and those healing rooms that John G. Lake had, and how did you get possession of it even?
Cal Pierce:Well I had gone there and I had visited different sites around the city when we first moved there that Lake had had, where his house was and where the Mercury building was, and I'd walk the hallway there praying. It's an old building, not many tenants on that third floor. And when I walked the hallway, the enemy would come along in the beginning, and said, you know, "You're no John G. Lake. What are you doing here". So I went back to the grave site and prayed some more. But this was a year later when I was fasting, when the Holy Spirit said, he drew me to re-dig the well of healing. He said, "If you want to dig a well you got to go back to the well site. You got to do it there". So he said, "Go back". So a year later, I'm walking across the hallway again on the third floor praying and the Holy Spirit come along beside me and said, "You know, it wasn't John Lake, it was me and I'm still here". And I knew then we had to open these rooms.
Sid Roth:How did you know about that angel?
Cal Pierce:Well you know, we had the intercessors there and they were being prayed for because I knew intercessor prayer was an important part of this ministry and I was anointing people. And when they went into the Silver Room, when I was anointing them in this room, it had silver carpet, everyone was on the floor. But outside the room everyone was standing. A lady sent me a note saying, "I want to tell you what happened. When I entered that room the power of God was so powerful that no one could stand in that room". You know, so when I came to start moving in, I said, I got to check this out. I was bringing some boxes. So I walked through the doorway into this room with the silver carpet and I felt the presence of God so powerful. You know, I had never felt it like that before. So the next day I was coming back and I said, "Holy Spirit, what is it that makes the anointing so powerful in this room with the silver carpet"? And the Holy Spirit said this, he said, "I've deposited an angel in this room. It's been waiting for 80 years for these rooms to reopen so that once again I can pour out the anointing to bring healing once again to the city of Spokane".
Sid Roth:So the same angel that was there for John G. Lake is also there. And you told me sometimes when you travel, for instance you were recently in Brunswick, Georgia, and what did the maid from the hotel tell you?
Cal Pierce:Well I went back to the hotel, went to put my key in the door and I hear a voice down the hallway that says, "Reverend, your room is ready". And I looked down the hallway and there was two cleaning ladies standing there, and I said, "Well how did you know I was a pastor"? And the lady looked at me and said, "Well this morning when I saw you leave I told my friend here, I said, that's a preacher, and my friend said, well how do you know this? She said, "Because when he left this morning I saw the angel go with him".
Sid Roth:Now Michelle, you were touched by God when your husband was touched by God at this Bethel Church in Redding, California.
Michelle Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:But and you went along with your husband out of obedience, but you really weren't with him, were you?
Michelle Pierce:Well I, no. I did, I had my things that I didn't want to give up. You know, you think you, if you follow God you have to give up a lot and so I liked my TV and I liked going to the movies, and I didn't want to give all that up. And so I let him do his thing, but it came to a point where I knew that I had to make a choice. And once I made that choice, when I made that choice to go with Cal into the healing rooms and be a part of the ministry, I didn't give up anything. I just, the desire was not there any more. That's what people need to understand that you don't give up. You don't have to worry about giving up things in the world, you think you oh I'm gonna have to give this up or that. It's not that. It's when you turn your life over to God and really say, I am going to seek you and walk with you that you just don't have those desires.
Sid Roth:A prophet prayed over you.
Michelle Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:Right after you made that decision.
Michelle Pierce:Yes.
Sid Roth:Knowing nothing about it. What did he say?
Michelle Pierce:It was Jim Goll and he came into the healing room and I could see he was looking at me, and I thought, oh he's going to read my mail and maybe some I haven't even read yet. And so I was kind of worried. But he started to prophesy over me and he said that I was like a flue and the damper was closed, and it was just all clogged. And when he said that I knew in my spirit that that was what was wrong. And he says, "About six weeks ago you opened the flue". And Cal and I talked about it was about six weeks earlier I had made the choice to quit my job and to go into the healing rooms, and so, and it was opening up.
Sid Roth:It was that simple, you made a decision.
Michelle Pierce:I made that decision that, you know, there was nothing I could dispute with what Calvin was doing. It was God. I would be arguing against God. And so I knew that if I didn't walk with him that our lives would be just going totally different directions, and I didn't want that. I love my husband and I love the Lord.
Sid Roth:A decision, a decision, that's what she made, a decision, a decision to follow God. You're not watching this by accident. That's all he's waiting for. We'll be right back after this.
Sid Roth:Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter. Let's find out who's on next week. Let's go to Janie in the control room. Janie?
Janie:Sid, you'll be interviewing a man by the name of Randy Clark and everywhere where this man goes he sees major healing. I mean, he has seen tumors disappear before his eyes. He has seen the deaf hear, the blind see and even creative miracles. He'll be talking about a woman who had Parkinson's disease and 84 percent of her brain cells were gone. And he prayed for her and they grew back, and she was healed.
Sid Roth:Well I'm looking forward to that. But I'm with Cal and Michelle Pierce, and Cal, you were telling me that you've seen in this silver room where that same angel is, so many miracles. People are coming from all over. But let's get specific. Tell me about that one person that was mentally ill that got healed.
Cal Pierce:Yes. Joe Oak's mother brought Joe in with his best friend. The mother was taking Joe because he had a mental breakdown that was so severe that Joe, a young man in his early 20s, did not know his name, did not know who his mother was, could no longer walk on his own. She was in the process of taking him to be admitted into the state mental institution, called his best friend to come and help her get Joe in, and the best friend said, "I heard about these healing rooms. Would you mind stopping by there on the way"? And the mother said, "It was like I was taking my son to his funeral and it was so traumatic," she said, "out of a mother's desperation I said yes". So they brought Joe in and the ministry team prayed over Joe in one of the healing rooms. And the mother saw such a dramatic change that she took Joe home. And they brought him two more times. And just the other day, the elevator opened and out stepped Joe. And he reached out, and he took my hand, and he says, "Remember me, I'm Joe". And Joe is absolutely normal, and that's why we're there.
Sid Roth:Tell me about some other specific people that were healed.
Cal Pierce:Well we had Brian Wilkes. Brian has come in a number of times for prayer. He had brain surgery, chemotherapy. The doctors were had done everything they could do.
Sid Roth:Cancer?
Cal Pierce:Brain cancer. And Brian emailed us the other day and said, he said, "I went to the doctor and I was tested again and my, the tumor that I had has shrunk down to less than a size of a marble". But he said, "The miraculous thing, it went from cancerous to benign". And the doctor said, "Brian, you're going to be around a long time".
Sid Roth:When you see things like that, it's worth everything you two have gone through.
Michelle Pierce:Yes.
Cal Pierce:Oh I'll tell you, the sick are worth it. They're worth our lives.
Sid Roth:Now there are people that are watching us right now that have been given a death sentence by the doctors. You've been told you have six months to live, three months to live. Do they need to accept that death sentence?
Cal Pierce:Oh not at all, not at all.
Sid Roth:You two seem pretty strong on that.
Cal Pierce:Jesus is our savior. He's our healer. He's not going to commission us, to get us saved, commission us, go into all the world and preach the Gospel, and leave us flat on our back so we can't do it. It's his great love that pours forth healing. It's his heart. It's in the atonement. He is our healer. And he just wants to show the church that healing needs to be the norm in the church, not the exception.
Sid Roth:Now what about someone blind?
Cal Pierce:Well we had a young lady who was diagnosed in December, Carolyn Mira legally blind, this last December, and she came in about a little over a month ago with a big grin on her face because she had come in time and time again. And Carolyn said, "I just came from the eye doctor and my eyes are 20/20".
Sid Roth:Is that possible?
Cal Pierce:The doctor had been in practice for over ten years and he said, "Carolyn, you had a degenerative eye disease that is not reversible". He says, "I don't know what happened, Carolyn, but your eyes are 20/20". And Carolyn come in the other day, she told us, she says, "You can stop praying now because my eyes are 20/15 now".
Sid Roth:Oh my goodness. Well I'll tell you what, how about praying for me. No, I'm just teasing. I'm serious. But I'll tell you what, there are people watching us right now that are desperate. Is that, let me ask you something, is that same angel that's in the healing room here in the studio right now? Do you know?
Cal Pierce:Oh the presence of the Holy Spirit is here now. He wants to heal the sick.
Sid Roth:Would you pray specifically for people right now.
Cal Pierce:Yes I will. Amen. You know, no matter who you are, no matter where you're at, just know that Jesus loves you. He cares for you. He gave his life. He bore your sickness. He carried your pain. He wants you to know by his stripes you were healed. And no matter how tough it might seem to you it's his great love that heals the sick, and he wants to heal you today. All you've got to do is ask him. He says, "You have not because you asked not". But his great love is to heal his people and he'll do it. Let me just say, Father in Jesus' name, for those who are hurting out there, put your hand upon them, Lord, bring healing into their bodies right now, Father. Your hand is not short, it doesn't matter where they're at, that you can heal them right where they are right now in Jesus' name. Amen.
Sid Roth:I can tell you that I sense, I mean, I can feel the presence of God right now. And some of you cannot feel it and some of you can, but that's not what's so important. What is important is for you to know God. You see, this life is just a blink of the eye. But there's more. There is so much more for you right now. If you will pray to know God right at this moment, God is going to become real to you. Pray out loud, Dear Jesus, I'm a sinner. With your help I turn from my sins. I believe that you died for my sins and by your blood I am clean. And now that I am clean, I ask you Jesus to come inside of me. Take over my life. I make you Lord of my life. Amen. Now if you said that prayer and meant it, God meant what he said. Some of you can– This is what is known as interactive television. Some of you literally, I mean, I can feel, the best way I can describe it is what Jesus said. He said that you will have rivers of living water flowing continuously, rivers flowing continuously. And I pray that that river that is going right through the television set right now would go right into you, and that you would experience what Cal and Michelle experienced. I pray for reality. I pray for shalom, great peace, great completeness for you. I pray for peace like you've never experienced before. That's God. That is God right now, and that his river of his spirit right on you.