Sid Roth - The BEST Way to Recover ALL God's Promises with Kerry Kirkwood
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it's naturally supernatural. You know, I promised God a long time ago I'd be obedient, and He spoke to me, right in the middle of what I'm talking to you, right now about! And He said there are people watching right now, that you have pains in your neck. If you'll move your head, you'll see that the pain is gone. You have pain in your head, perhaps a migraine, and a toothache. You are healed, in Jesus' name. Now, Jesus paid so much more a price than just your free ticket to Heaven! He paid the price for you to bring Heaven on Earth but this comes by revelation! My guest has such a revelation on how to bring Heaven on Earth to change your destiny, to change your family, to change every aspect of your life and I want him to pour this revelation into you, so you will start bringing Heaven on this Earth!
Sid Roth: Okay. You teach on, pursue, overtake, and recover. what do you mean by that?
Kerry Kirkwood: Well it's actually about redemption. I'd call it the power of redemption. And redemption simply means "that which was lost", you know is reclaimed and brought back in. In the Old Covenant, what Adam lost in the Garden, that Jesus through the new Covenant resurrection, has restored us back into that place where we can recover all of those things. So in 1 Samuel 30, we have the story where David had well had been co having conquests with his men, they were having real success with that. He comes back into his home base at Ziklag, and he finds out all of this family had been taken, marauders had come, and every they'd lost everything. And here are these men that he had gone to battle with, they loved each other, they were like a band of brothers. And when they lost everything, grief fell on them, and David even is even hearing them talking about killing him.
Sid Roth: Mmm.
Kerry Kirkwood: So here's the Davidic anointing for you: It's that David got a long away from them, and the Bible says he called for the priestly garment, the ephod, which is a single piece outer garment going over it. He takes off his battle gear, all of his armor, and now he takes on his position of being a priest. And hearing the background of all of these men saying, "We're going to kill him," to be able to still his heart, and inquire. And the word inquire doesn't mean ask questions, it literally means coming into a place of worship that's the ways of the priesthood and asking the Lord. And there the Lord tells him you will pursue, overtake, and recover. In other words, if you're believing to overtake, but you haven't pursued, then it's not going to help you any. So the idea is pursuing, you've got to go after it, chase after it, and then look for it. And once you see it, then you adjust yourself, how do, when I recover, how am I going to live with this new found ministry, or gifting?
Sid Roth: So, tell me a practical situation where this your car was vandalized, and you operated under that principle.
Kerry Kirkwood: Yeah, it was the very beginning, when we were kind of understanding this principle, and my wife and I, we're in Houston, getting ready to do a conference. We went into a restaurant, hadn't been there for a few minutes, and the waiter came over to me there weren't many people in the restaurant that day and said, "Did you drive in here with a busted window on your car"? And I said, "No I didn't"! So he said, "Well you got one now"! Went out there, glass all over the ground. And they'd taken my briefcase, thinking there's probably a computer in it. I had notes that I was working on for a book, my wife had things there, and they just took everything. I didn't have a Bible for the conference the next day. We went back to the hotel feeling violated, feeling like, "God, how could you allow this to happen? We're here on Your mission, and this has taken place". So in the time of prayer, we were thinking we just, I guess, go buy a new Bible Bibles, and just, you know just uh cut our losses and move on. And so in the course of that, we heard the Lord tell us, "Pursue, overtake, and you'll recover". And so we wouldn't give up, we kept pressing in. Call my answering service and on the answering service a man in another part of Houston, far South Houston, said, "I went out to the trash to empty the trash, and I looked in and saw a Bible there, and I pulled it out. I've cleaned it up, it had a note in there with your name on it, and number, and I called you". And He said "I I've if it's okay with you, I copied some of your notes. I'm a Lay Preacher, and so I've enjoyed reading your notes there". And so we realized, then, God didn't want us to just say well cut your losses, forget about it. He wanted us to go after that as something that He really has for us.
Sid Roth: Hm. You know, how many times we give up...
Kerry Kirkwood: Yes.
Sid Roth: ...just before we're going to...
Kerry Kirkwood: Exactly.
Sid Roth: ...get the answer to our prayer. tell me a bit about this word "redemption", from a Hebraic understanding. You know, I'm I'm convinced most Believers don't understand that very important word.
Kerry Kirkwood: Well, it means the fact the price has been paid it's there and I've had the opportunity to bring it back into its original pattern. What was lost in the Garden of Eden under Adam 1 Corinthians 15 tell us Jesus is the second Adam what Adam lost in the Garden of Eden, which is the place of His presence, the place of His pleasure, Jesus overcame in the Garden of Gethsemane, when He said, "Not My will, but Your will be done". After, resurrection, He takes His blood into the Throne Room, the Holy of Holies the real one in Heaven places it on the Mercy Seat. At that point, the price has been paid, my redemption price has been paid, and everything that has been lost in my family, finances, even my health all of those things I have a right to recover, but I have to pursue them, and call them back in, through the name of Jesus.
Sid Roth: And, you know there are, in many lives, there are families where maybe not you, but maybe your grandparents, or great-grandparents had something stolen from them? Do you know, you can spiritually and legally call that back to you? He heard something from God, and uh, I think everyone should hear this. you said that God told you He was going to give you a new tool to solve every problem you have. I'd like to find out what that new tool was! Be right back.
Sid Roth: Kerry, give me a one-sentence definition of "redemption".
Kerry Kirkwood: To bring back to whatever God’s intended purpose was. In other words, God doesn't give up on us. He had a plan from the very foundation of the world. The Lamb of God was slain, so therefore whatever the original intention of God is, He red He redeems us, or He makes that possible for us.
Sid Roth: And God spoke to you about redemption!
Kerry Kirkwood: Yeah.
Sid Roth: Tell me exactly what He said!
Kerry Kirkwood: I was on the way to the office, and I was just asking Him, "Would You give me a nugget, that I could share with the staff who's been working hard"? And He told me that very phrase, "I am going to give you something, a tool, that you will be able to apply to every problem you ever face and be able to solve it". Well, I wanted to pull over to the side of the road and take notes because I thought here's something of the universe, right here! Thought He'd tell me some mystery that, you know, but what He said to me, "To shrink the problem, you have to magnify the solution". And He said, "Too many people have been magnifying the problem, and cannot hear the solution". Psalms 34 says, "Oh, magnify the Lord with me," and the word "magnify" means "to make larger, to extend", like the overshadowing. In Psalms 91, the shadow overshadowing magnify is the word "shadow" there actually means thoughts. So He says, magnify Me, let My thoughts, intentions, come over you, and you shrink the problem! So we tell people, you know, what the doctor said, and how bad life is, and how bad my kids are, and they magnify the problem, in essence, say in essence saying, "but look what the devil's done". But when we magnify the Lord, I don't deny the problem, I just deny the devil the right to use it against me by magnifying the Lord with Him, make Him bigger than that.
Sid Roth: Now you talk about the power of worship.
Kerry Kirkwood: Yeah. When David, in 1 Samuel 30, is inquiring of the Lord, it actually is a point of like, "Enter into His gates with thanksgiving", to be able to not worship because it was the great environment, the music was playing, and everything was uh motivational to you. Because here these men were talking about killing him, that David enters into this place with the Lord, and he begins to just allow it to come up out of his heart. Worship really begins from the Throne Room of God. Ezekiel 47, talks about this river flowing, and that the farther it gets from the threshold, and gets down, the deeper it gets, and he's looking for people to offer it through him. And so Hebrews 13 says, "Let us offer through Jesus", you know the sacrifice of praise. So He really is wanting to speak back through us, and in doing this, and the revelation of worship, things are made known. There's understanding of Who He is, and then we can identify the things that have been lost generationally, lost in our life that we can go after.
Sid Roth: Uh you told me about something that, I have to tell you, excites me no end, going on, I believe it was in Dallas,
Kerry Kirkwood: Yes.
Sid Roth: with millennials.
Kerry Kirkwood: Yeah, these were millennials. I felt like the old guy there! And they were looking around 20 and 30's and they entered into this place of worship, in such an intensity that...
Sid Roth: How many would you say?
Kerry Kirkwood: Oh there was at least 2,000!
Sid Roth: 2,000?
Kerry Kirkwood: Yeah, and that's only one particular service.
Sid Roth: Hmh!
Kerry Kirkwood: In a warehouse that is undescriptive, wires hanging down, you know, bulbs in the ceiling.
Sid Roth: Right.
Kerry Kirkwood: There's not all this fancy, you know, tilework and all this.
Sid Roth: It's not the golden cathedral.
Kerry Kirkwood: No it's not! So they're not entertaining them. They come I saw women with babies strapped to their back, and one to their front, with her hands lifted up.
Sid Roth: Hmh!
Kerry Kirkwood: And they were not distracted. There was no nursery, no frills at all, we would say, you're not offering anything. The intensity and they would worship and just the presence of God would be there for such an extended time. And out of this, songs of the Lord, new songs started to rise up in that environment.
Sid Roth: Can you picture if that is just a micro chasm of what God is about ready to do all over the world? There is hope for the world! Stop magnifying the problems in the world, and let's magnify the Lord!
Kerry Kirkwood: Amen.
Sid Roth: You teach on spiritual weapons, and my favorite is the power of the blood of Jesus!
Kerry Kirkwood: Yes.
Sid Roth: Talk to me about the blood.
Kerry Kirkwood: Well, in in the pursuing and overtaking, recovering, I use 4 different weapons in there, and but the main one is the power of the blood. And the blood was what purchased the right of redemption, and so with that, we have there's a sound that comes out of that! We see in Genesis 4 where the blood of Abel it was spilled by Cain cries out from the Earth! Blood has a sound! And in Exodus 12, when I see the blood, the spirit of Ibadan passes over it. So we carry the redemptive spirit inside of us, that rejects everything that opposes the very nature of who, we're called to be. And the blood of Jesus has a sound, and it is pushing back. Re said to, "Resist the devil", "submit yourself to God. And resist the devil". We're to resist him because we carry a sound inside of us, that pushes back against the gates of Hell! And the Bible even says, where Jesus told Peter that, "I am giving you these keys, and the gates of Hell will not prevail", and He uses the word "gates", plural, meaning but He's not talking about the gate of Sheol, down there. He's where he uses the plural "gates", which means anything that blocks the revelation of who Jesus is in you is a gate of Hell.
Sid Roth: Mm! I'm going to tell you something. We are using so little of what God has given us!
Kerry Kirkwood: Yes, true.
Sid Roth: What would happen if we use it all? I'll tell you what would happen, you'd start experiencing Heaven on Earth! When we come back, I want Kerry to share this amazing dream he had about Washington D.C. and the Glory! I know it seems like the two don't go together, but they do! We'll be right back.
Sid Roth: You know, I love it when my guests, in this case, Kerry Kirkwood, says, "God just told me something"! I said, "Do what I do, even in the introductions"! Tell us it!
Kerry Kirkwood: I want to speak to families, especially marriages right now. I feel the prompting of the Holy Spirit. There is a Covenant-breaking spirit that's going on in your marriage, and you're blaming circumstances. It's not the circumstantial evidence, but it's a spirit of Covenant-breaking. And right now, Jesus wants you to know that He paid the price for that, and you pursue after hearing the Word of the Lord and speaking over one another. And you bless one another, instead of telling all your friends how bad your husband is, how bad your wife is. You begin to declare to them what Jesus has already said in the beginning, and your Covenant will be restored, your life will be restored, your perspective of one another will be restored, and your whole family will be one, be joined in, and you're going to see a change everywhere financially, emotionally, physically will come into your house.
Sid Roth: Huh. I want to emphasize, Kerry, but if they say the opposite and magnify the problem, it's going to get a thousand times worse.
Kerry Kirkwood: It gets worse. If you're magnifying the problems become magnified.
Sid Roth: That’s exactly what God told you.
Kerry Kirkwood: Uh-hmm.
Sid Roth: Tell me about the dream you had, of Washington D.C.
Kerry Kirkwood: I don't have a lot of dreams that I that know that's prolific, but I was half awake and I didn't go to bed thinking about Washington. But in this, I was hovering over the map of the United States, and I zeroed in on Washington D.C. I saw small little, like campfires scattered all over the United States of America. And the more that I watched them, they started the fires started growing together so that they were no longer divided. But I could hear that these fires were intercessory teams, groups praying, and they were praying very targeted, very specific supplications, very specific, to the Lord. And as they began to target this, as in a unity of the spirit, they started joining together, and they joined together and started intensifying around Washington D.C. I saw the most hideous figures that I can't I can't even describe, blood dripping from fangs and teeth, screaming and hollering, as they went up through the flames, and they were screaming and hollering and tearing as they went out of there. And the Lord said to me, "I am giving an opportunity for the government seat of this nation to come to the point of", "of recognizing that on the", "the shoulders of the Lord", Isaiah 9, "upon His shoulder shall the government be". And when this happens, there is a wave of Glory that's going to go all over the United States, and go north and south over North America, and the epicenter of governing in Washington D.C. is going to be key. But He said they must continue to pray, because the demonic international of the spirits, demonic spirits from other nations, will come and try to come back in because the effect that the U.S. has over other nations. And but the saints prevail, the bowls are full, and it pushes back, and it's the Glory of the Lord covering it. In the same way that I saw in uh Genesis, where the fountains of the deep broke open, and the Heavens opened, synchronized with Noah, and the floods started coming. And the Bible said, "It is God" Yah "that rides on the flood". When the enemy comes in, comma, "like a flood", God God rides on the flood, not the enemy and His Glory is going to be such a flood. And God's going to be in charge of this Glory, not some ministry.
Sid Roth: Mm! You know you know what I'm thinking, that there are so many people watching us right now, and they're saying, "God, I want to do something for You. Show me, You're my ministry". Well, do you know what God says? He says to you right now, "If I can trust you with little things, I will trust you with big things". Do you realize you can be part of the outpouring of the Glory?
Kerry Kirkwood: Uh-hmm.
Sid Roth: Wherever you are, you have time. Take 5 minutes, a half hour, an hour, whatever you want to do, and pray for this country. Pray for the country that you're from. You say, "What will my prayers make a difference"? Well there comes a boiling point, and you're needed for that boiling point.
Kerry Kirkwood: Amen.
Sid Roth: And you will be known in Heaven, by your prayers on Earth. That I can tell you. Kerry, very quickly, when you teach on "take your thoughts captive", give me one nugget from that.
Kerry Kirkwood: Well Psalms 91, as I said, are really the thoughts of the Lord. Psalms 40 said, "the thoughts of the Lord are numerous to us", so He's speaking to us, we just have to tune in to that. But we normally think as these thoughts we "take captive" are thoughts of the devil, but when we start clueing in, through the Word of the God, getting sensitivity through the meditation of the Word, we start picking up things that God says to us, and then you have to grab hold of what He says, take His thoughts captive. The word "captive" there literally means "at the point of a spear", they belong to me. And when you take those thoughts captive, then like Paul says, in Timothy, "by the words that have gone over you, you can do warfare with those"! So when God says something to you individually, that is ammunition for you to break out of any condition that's resisting what God has in store for you.
Sid Roth: I need you to pray! You have such a revelation of redemption, to bring Heaven on Earth. Would you pray for that revelation to just come into us!
Kerry Kirkwood: Yes. Yes, yes. Father, I'm asking according to what You've already done, by sending your Son, and the blood that's been on the Mercy Seat, because You released it on the Day of Pentecost as the outpouring to the siblings of our first brother, Jesus. And we receive it now. I call back into health that which have been lost. I call back into families that have been divided, and bitterness and wrath have been to them. The Hatfields and McCoys spirit, is broken between them, and you're restoring to them, O God, what You have spoken in the very beginning. So we call out of darkness, that's been hidden by the god of this world, blinded, and we call back into the light of their life, of the light of the world, Jesus in them, and so we break through the darkness so that you'll no longer be blinded. What God said, "this your inheritance", "this your heritage", based upon Jesus giving you the right to go and claim it. Amen!
Sid Roth: And you know what, it's "an anointing that breaks the yoke"! Be broken, yoke! Get off God's people, in Yeshua's name!
Kerry Kirkwood: Amen! Amen!