Sid Roth - Hidden Bible Codes Reveal the Future with Roy Reinhold
Sid Roth: Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter and I've been so looking forward to this show because I have Roy Reinhold here and he's one of these people that have found hidden codes in the Bible. I actually asked him to see if my name was in the Bible. Roy, how did you get interested in these hidden codes in the Bible?
Roy Reinhold: Well Sid, I started this about four years ago. I was praying one day.
Sid Roth: You're retired military.
Roy Reinhold: I'm retired military. I retired six years ago as a Navy officer. And I was praying one day about four years ago and the Lord suddenly spoke to me and said, "Roy, I want you to learn Hebrew". That came out of the blue. I'm not Jewish. I don't know any Hebrew. And so I agreed to do that. He didn't tell me why. Then three months later he spoke to me again and said, "Roy, I want you to get involved in the Bible codes". And so I've been involved with it ever since, Sid.
Sid Roth: Now briefly describe to me, what is the Bible Code?
Roy Reinhold: The Bible Code is where we take the Tanakh or the Torah, the Old Testament text and we take out all the spaces and punctuation marks, and we're left with a continuous line of text. We put that in a software program, some people do it by hand, and we create matrices or grids of rows and columns, and we look for terms that are displayed in there. Much like in the newspaper, they have small little grids where you're supposed to find a word and circle it, it's the same.
Sid Roth: To kind of whet the appetite, let's take one that you have found or that others have found. Let's say everyone has heard about the death of Princess Diana. What was found there?
Roy Reinhold: We have a matrix on Princess Diana that has about 45 terms and the center term is "Spencer", which was the royal name there. And it shows Diana, Dodi Fayed, who she was dating at the time, Paul the driver, it shows that they died in a tunnel in Paris, in an automobile accident, photographers that are prominently mentioned, and a lot of other incidents about the tragic accident.
Sid Roth: Now if I was to take another book that was just as big as the Hebrew Scriptures, let's just say a book like "War and Peace" and assuming it was in Hebrew, because it would have to be in Hebrew.
Roy Reinhold: Right.
Sid Roth: And I was to run the computer test, would I find similar things? Could it be in any book, this many things all together?
Roy Reinhold: If you look for one or two terms in it you'll find those in any book, in any language. What make the Bible Code different is that we find large clusters of groupings of terms that are clustered close together and that are tied together. In another text like "War and Peace" and Hebrew, what you find, if you were looking for like the University of Perdue, someone had gone there, those are word pairs. They should be close together. In a random sense in a matrix, it might be University of here Perdue over here, and you know, they don't go together. But in the Bible Code they're together. And so it's the arrangement of terms in a matrix or grid that shows that the Bible Code is valid.
Sid Roth: So you're saying to me though, if I'm understanding you right, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Roy Reinhold: Okay.
Sid Roth: That no other book but the Bible has so many groupings together.
Roy Reinhold: Exactly. It's the total design of the whole thing where we have matrices on events and real things. We have matrices on people and we have matrices about God and his nature.
Sid Roth: Tell me about another one, like say, Thomas Edison, the great inventor. What was found in that?
Roy Reinhold: With the Thomas Edison matrix that was one of the first large matrices I had ever done and it was to prove to myself that the Bible Code was real. So I went in autobiographies and found a list of about 75 or 80 terms where it showed Edison's wives, places he lived, his children and over 25 inventions. And I found them all in a single matrix that is readable where you would read the words horizontally, vertically or diagonally.
Sid Roth: You found how many inventions?
Roy Reinhold: Over 25 inventions and the matrix itself has over 75 terms in it.
Sid Roth: How can this, I mean, how can all of these people be in the Bible? It doesn't seem to be that big a book. I don't understand this.
Roy Reinhold: Well it's the way it is designed. There's a very narrow window for each matrix. If you have a matrix with a width of a hundred, then to be vertical, it would have to be a hundred or just a few either side of it to show diagonally. So it's a very narrow window for each one. And so because of that design you can have, it's possible to have billions of matrices in the Bible.
Sid Roth: Is it possible to find out future events by the Bible Code?
Roy Reinhold: I think so and I've certainly stated that openly. But there are other prominent teachers of the Word of God that say, no, you're not supposed to do them on the future. I think it's possible. The reason is if you can do a historical matrix then a matrix on the future that's going to happen a year from now is historical in the sense that if you look for it two years from now, you'd be looking back. So there's no logical reason why you cannot look for a matrix on a future event except that it's much harder because you don't know what is going to happen.
Sid Roth: Okay. I know as a fact that you looked up the Israeli election where Barak won. Tell me what you found before the election.
Roy Reinhold: Sixty days before the election, in 30 days, I did, I had a matrix and developed it with a couple of other people, and in both cases, it showed that Ehud Barak would win the May 1999 election in Israel. At the time before the election, the previous Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu was heavily favored to win. Everybody thought he'd win. So the Bible Code in these two different matrices showed that Ehud Barak would win.
Sid Roth: Just out of curiosity, what did it say? Did it say Barak would win?
Roy Reinhold: Yes.
Sid Roth: It actually said that.
Roy Reinhold: Yes.
Sid Roth: I think this is so amazing. What about you? What if your name was in the Bible? I'm looking forward to the fact that there is all sorts of research done on my name in the Bible. I mean, and he found the most amazing things. I'm still having difficulty not believing that it's there, but just comprehending that this book we call the Bible that many people just have dust on it and sitting on a shelf is so supernatural. We'll be back right after these words. Don't go away.
Sid Roth: Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter and just during the break I found out last week Roy found something. If you think what he said so far is mind blowing, listen to this. Do you remember when you were back in high school, some of you may be in high school right now, and they had the periodic chart of elements, that long list of all the little symbols for each element. Roy, what did you find in the Bible Code about the periodic chart of elements?
Roy Reinhold: Sid, a couple of, about a month and a half ago I decided to look and see if there were a matrix on the periodic table of elements, because some of the critics have said, you know, there's wiggle room in the way you spell words and what you look for. So I thought by taking something where we know there's no choice the names are there and we have little choice in the matter. And I looked for a single matrix that has all the elements. And if you could hold this.
Sid Roth: Sure.
Roy Reinhold: What this is just the matrix report and what it shows is in Hebrew the term, and then in English and the equidistant letter spacing that it's displayed at. And in this matrix we have the entire periodic table of elements and we have all the elements from 1 to 109. So we have 112 separate terms in this one line.
Sid Roth: Now what you're saying is that all of these elements were found in one grid.
Roy Reinhold: In one grid. And not only found there, but you can read them on it, vertically, horizontally or diagonally. So it's an incredible breakthrough for people who have had a scientific background. Now did it say in code the periodic table of elements also?
Roy Reinhold: Yes. The center terms here are periodic table of elements, right in the center.
Sid Roth: Now what I'm concerned about, Roy, is some of the viewers perhaps don't quite understand the Bible Code yet. So I'm going to say it in a simplistic fashion and you correct me. You be the teacher right now. As I understand it, when I was a kid I would find simple codes. I'd have a sheet filled with words and I'd go like every, I'd come up with an arbitrary figure that was the code, let's say five.
Roy Reinhold: Right.
Sid Roth: Every fifth letter I would write down, I'd go five letters, I'd write the letter down. Then I'd go another five, I'd write the letter down. I'd find a word. And then I would find a sentence and that's a very simplistic code. Is that the premise of this?
Roy Reinhold: Exactly. If you look on the example here on xenon, element 54, it's at an equidistant letter space of minus 1. So in this case, it's just reversed, but it's every letter. And you have five letters in a row spelled there: Qaf, Aleph, Nun, Vav and Nun.
Sid Roth: You really learned your Hebrew.
Roy Reinhold: Well I don't have a Jewish background, but I've learned Hebrew.
Sid Roth: Now are there elements that you found that no one else has found yet in the code? Is that a possibility?
Roy Reinhold: Well you know, that's one of the reasons why I did this matrix. But certainly I haven't looked at it. And there are 115 actual elements discovered so far, but any above 109 have a temporary name. And so I didn't look for them yet, since they had temporary names. But there's something I think I'd like to look for in the future to see if I could find out how many elements God created or what other elements we are going to be discovering yet.
Sid Roth: Okay. I can hardly wait. Although I have to be honest, I think I know, you found my name in the Bible. But you believe everyone's name is there.
Roy Reinhold: Yes. I believe that there is a single matrix on the life of every person. We can't prove it because we've only done 50 or a hundred.
Sid Roth: You haven't done every person.
Roy Reinhold: So we can't prove that there is. But if you do 50 and all 50 are there then you can kind of conclude that maybe everybody is.
Sid Roth: Look, I'm impressed. I gave you my name. As a matter of fact, I gave him my birth name, which then many years ago I changed, I shortened. My birth name is Sidney Abraham Rothbaum. My legal name is Sid Roth. But so I gave you that information and tell me what you found and perhaps I can hold this up. First of all, what are we looking at? What is all of this Hebrew?
Roy Reinhold: This is very interesting. This is very explanatory for people. A matrix is just rows and columns, so it's just letters.
Sid Roth: From where is this in the Bible?
Roy Reinhold: It starts up here in the upper right and goes from Song of Solomon down to the Book of Nehemiah in the lower left.
Sid Roth: And, okay, explain this now.
Roy Reinhold: A life matrix on a person is set up very logically. The center term or the main term is the last name of the person, in this case, your last name.
Sid Roth: What does it say?
Roy Reinhold: It says Rothbaum, which was your name before you shorted it to Roth.
Sid Roth: Yes.
Roy Reinhold: And also here is a clump of, right in this area, and we have Sidney, Sidney, we have your middle name, Abraham, and we have your Jewish name, or Hebrew name.
Sid Roth: Yeah. Incidentally, every Jewish person has a name and from the country they're from, but also a Hebrew name, and my name, my Hebrew name is Israel ben Jacov David.
Roy Reinhold: And so right here in this same general area where we had Sidney Abraham, your first and middle name, we have Yisrael ben Jacov David right here in the same exact area. Right above that is your date of birth information. We have Shalosh Tammuz 5700, which was September 7, 1940.
Sid Roth: That's exactly, and it's, now you told me something interesting, that the date of birth is normally found in the same section for most people. Is that correct?
Roy Reinhold: All the matrices I've done on people's lives, it's in the upper right hand corner, sometimes maybe down into this area, but it's in this particular area of the matrix. And in this case it shows above and below here your date of birth. It shows molad, birth.
Sid Roth: Now on this page, and I don't want you to tell me.
Roy Reinhold: Okay.
Sid Roth: Is my death, in your opinion?
Roy Reinhold: Oh yes, it's on there.
Sid Roth: Don't tell me.
Roy Reinhold: Okay. But your wife's name is on there.
Sid Roth: Really? What does it say?
Roy Reinhold: It says...
Sid Roth: Her name is Joyce.
Roy Reinhold: Joyce Thurley and Young.
Sid Roth: Wait a second. Now give me a break. Let me give you this chart back. My wife's name is an old family name. No one I know has that name for a middle name. You're telling me that in the Bible, written thousands of years ago, it's Joyce Thurley and Young is there?
Roy Reinhold: Yes. And not only that, but they're crossing, and crossing those, it says "wife". So it's below your last name and it shows she's your wife. And it was written 3000 years ago in the Bible, encoded in the Bible Code.
Sid Roth: Is there any explanation, I mean, you're a real thinker type person. I can tell. You're also a very logical type of person. Is there any explanation of why my name, my wife's name, my date of birth, you even found the name of the organization that I'm with in there, and the exact date that it was founded. I mean, is there any explanation beyond God wrote the book? Is there any other explanation?
Roy Reinhold: Well some people have come up with some real oddball things. But there's no explanation except to note that whoever encoded it knew all these events long ago, because for example, it starts at the book, Song of Solomon, which was written about 1000 B.C. So we have 3000 years ago that was encoded underneath it. So whoever encoded the information, which I believe is God, knew the important events about every person's life.
Sid Roth: Imagine that. Three thousand years ago God put my name in the Bible, in code, my wife's name in the Bible, the name of my organization, the day it started, the date I was born. I mean, give me a break, you skeptics. Where are you when I need you? We'll be right back after this.
Sid Roth: Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter. I'm here with Roy Reinhold. And Roy, you said that in code, and this really surprised me, there are only three places where you find Jesus the Messiah, that phrase or Hebrew, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, and one of them had an astounding thing in their matrix. Tell me about it.
Roy Reinhold: Yes. In the entire Tanakh, the Old Testament, it's, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach is only found three times. And I cut off the center part of to show the audience. The center term actually says, which means, is translated into English as, "What is he? The gift, Yeshua the Messiah, is it not? Surely it is".
Sid Roth: Say that again, will you?
Roy Reinhold: What is he? The gift, Yeshua the Messiah, is it not? Surely it is. It's an incredible central.
Sid Roth: Can I hold that up?
Roy Reinhold: Sure.
Sid Roth: Tell me about this now.
Roy Reinhold: It's an incredible single, central term of 17 letters long. Now on a statistical basis the chances of that occurring are infinitesimally small. And what was incredible about this matrix, as I looked at it further, is that this particular matrix, next to it, it says, "Announcement: I'm coming soon with love to Israel".
Sid Roth: Oh my goodness. It really says that there?
Roy Reinhold: Yes. And...
Sid Roth: Jesus, get this now. Jesus the Messiah, "Announcement: I'm coming soon with love to Israel". Again, skeptics, where are you when I need you?
Roy Reinhold: And the matrix goes on to cover the Second Coming. That's why this matrix is so important. It covers all aspects of the Second Coming...
Sid Roth: Of the Messiah.
Roy Reinhold: Of the Messiah. It talks about him.
Sid Roth: How does this line up, what I want to know is how does it line up what is in code with what it says in our translations, in the Tanakh? In other words, it tells us what to expect in the Bible. Does the code also tell us the same things or different things, or more things?
Roy Reinhold: The Bible Code actually agrees with the prophecies of the Bible. And in some cases it amplifies it. It gives us a few more detail. For example, this is only the center part of the matrix, but if I showed you the whole matrix up above in this area, there would be an area that showed where the armies of the earth will attack the Messiah, and they're going to use chemical, nuclear and biological weapons.
Sid Roth: How do you know that?
Roy Reinhold: It states it specifically.
Sid Roth: Really?
Roy Reinhold: Yes.
Sid Roth: But they didn't know about chemical and nuclear, and biological weapons when the prophets, ancient prophets penned these words.
Roy Reinhold: No, I don't think the people who wrote the book knew any of that.
Sid Roth: There wasn't even an automobile or computer, or telephone, nothing.
Roy Reinhold: Exactly. But it states right in there that nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. And they're going to attack the Messiah, but he's going to render the weapons useless or be turned back on the armies that launch them, which his exactly what, for example, is written in Zachariah 14, where it talks about the armies of the earth attacking the Messiah and the weapons being rendered useless. And then there's another area that's really interesting in this matrix and it talks about judgment of the people living on the earth. And specifically, it talks about judging of the Jewish people in the prophetic fulfillment of Yom Kippur, which is the Day of Atonement. And it talks about the...
Sid Roth: What do you mean by judging?
Roy Reinhold: The Messiah is going to be sitting there on a throne and he's going to judge the people who are alive on the earth. They're going to come before him and he's going to judge whether they're going to be allowed to stay and populate the earth or whether they're going to be rejected.
Sid Roth: Now the Bible talks about a Book of Life, and in Judaism, on Yom Kippur, we pray and fast that our name be inscribed in the Book of Life. Do you believe that the Book of Life might be the Bible?
Roy Reinhold: Well if I answered it and said, yes I think it's a good possibility. But I actually asked the Lord one day that question while I was praying one day. And I asked the Lord, is the Book of Life encoded in the Bible? Certainly I know it's not encoded in the equites and letter spacing system we're using now for Bible code. And he answered me on it and said, "Yes, it's encoded there, but it's a different encoding system and I'm not going to allow anyone to break that coding system right now". And the reason why would probably be that this life here is a testing place and if you knew your name was in the Book of Life and you didn't have to do anything about it or have any faith, or read the Word of God then it wouldn't be much of a test. So certainly, some of those things are left as unknowns to us.
Sid Roth: Well I've got a question. I have a question for you and that is it's unknown. We don't have the way to break the code, assuming the Bible is the Book of Life. But there is a way to know for sure that your name is in the Book of Life. I mean, absolutely know for sure. I don't mean just say a little prayer and have someone else tell you your name is in the Book of Life. I mean, there's a way that you can know yourself. And I'll tell you because I had that experience. I know that I know, that I know. I don't hope it. I mean, being Jewish, no one told me Jesus was the Messiah, as a child. I learned that Jesus wasn't the Messiah, is what I was taught. But I had my own experience. Whether you're Jewish or gentile, whether you're Christian or Muslim, each person must have their own experience with God. And there's no other name give on to man in which we must be saved, but that Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, who is going to judge the earth. First, sincerely tell God you're sorry for your sins because you really offended him. You really sinned against him and him only. Ask him to forgive you. Ask him to cover your sins with his blood and believe by faith that he's coming to live inside of you, and say out loud, Jesus, I make you Lord of my life. I make you Lord over every area of my life. I want to know you. I have a great desire to know you. Oh God, become real to me now in Jesus' name. Amen. You said that, God heard it and now believe he's going to move. He is going to.