Sid Roth - Two Simple Steps to Hear God's Voice More with Dave Hayes
My guest, "the Praying Medic", says if you will do these two things consistently you will have a steady flow consistently of hearing God's voice. Are you interested?
Sid Roth: Now, many of you are familiar with "the Praying Medic", Dave Hayes, but for those that are not, let me give you quick recap. Dave was a fervent atheist until he was 38, paramedic, in 2000 he became a Believer in the Messiah, and then, strange things started happening. He started hearing God's voice! and then he had a prophetic dream. And what did God tell you to do with your patients, in the ambulance?
Dave Hayes: He said, "I want you to pray for your patients. I am going to show you what's wrong with them. And if you pray for them, I will heal them".
Sid Roth: Now, when he said this to you, I mean you’re a new Believer, um, what do you do you have no paradigm!
Dave Hayes: I had no...
Sid Roth: Did you think you'd be like a healing evangelist, "Heal, in the name of Jesus"? What did you think?
Dave Hayes: I was confused! I had no idea. I didn't even believe in healing at that time! I didn't believe in miracles, I'd never seen anyone healed! In fact, my wife and I had just had an argument, a disagreement, a couple of weeks earlier about healing, she believed in miracles, I didn't. And, then I had the dream, and God said, "I am going to do miracles through you", so I didn't I didn't have a grid for it.
Sid Roth: Alright. So, but you did have that Jewish thing called "chutzpah" "nerve", except he's not Jewish! But somehow he got uh some of our chutzpah. And anyway, and you pray uh but uh no! Let me tell you what this guy did! You never have done this! He told me he prayed for 400 people in the ambulance! How many got healed?
Dave Hayes: None.
Sid Roth: Do you hear that? None! How many of you would have gone to 401? I mean this is in the ambulance! You can lose your job! You can lose your job. I mean I'm sure all this was going on inside of you! But then, tell me one of the first people that was healed, and what happened.
Dave Hayes: Well I was on the ambulance. It was a very hot day, and my partner and I went into a store to get something to drink. Got my Gatorade, I went to the checkout counter, and I was standing in line behind a woman. And for some reason, I looked, and I closed my eyes. In my mind, I saw what I now know is a vision, I didn't know what it was at the time. I saw a picture of this woman, and I saw the word "migraines" underneath her! And, I thought...
Sid Roth: It was just like written out over this picture. You had you ever seen this woman before?
Dave Hayes: Nope, never saw her before.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Dave Hayes: Never had any experience like that.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Dave Hayes: So, I just thought, "Okay, well God must be telling me she has migraine headaches because he wants me to pray for her". So, all of a sudden, I got this boost of confidence or faith, and I said, "Hey, um, hi. I’m Dave, I'm a paramedic. Um, do you have migraine headaches"? And she starts crying! And I said, "What what's wrong"? She goes, "Yes, I have migraines, and how did you that"? And I said, "Well God told me, and I think He wants me to pray for you, so you can be healed". So, I prayed for her, the headache was completely gone, she's crying, and she said, "You don't understand what happened. I have had migraines for years. This morning I woke up with another headache, and I asked God, 'When are You going to heal me?', and then you showed up at the store", and she got healed. And I got a testimony from her. I contacted her months later, she's had never had any more migraines.
Sid Roth: Hm. Now, this was just the beginning! He gets so many people healed he's a paramedic in an ambulance he gets so many people healed after that, but, you begged a question, with me: So why weren't the first 400 healed? You had a dream from God!
Dave Hayes: Right.
Sid Roth: Why?
Dave Hayes: Because I didn't know how to release power, and how to exercise authority. Alright. I just thought I could beg God to heal somebody, and they would be healed. And then that's what I did for the first two or three months. I would very quietly I'd have a patient on the gurney, "Oh Lord, if it's Your will, please heal them", in a quiet voice so no one could hear me. Did that for a few months, no one got healed. And I started learning about, you know, reading through the Scriptures, reading through the New Testament, seeing how Jesus healed people, and the and the Disciples healed people. Uh, then I realized it's about authority, the authority that God has given us, and releasing the power, the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us! Once I understood it was about releasing power, and exercising authority, I started seeing people healed all the time!
Sid Roth: Tell me about one of the most recent healings you've had. I'd like to hear it.
Dave Hayes: Are you talking about the one at the conference? Right. So I was at a conference in Tacoma last year, and this woman tracked me down and said, "Praying Medic, can you pray for me? I need to be healed"! And I said, "Yeah! I’ll be happy to pray for ya". And she knew me, she was a friend of mine, we've emailed each other. I had prayed for her to be healed of emotional trauma from sexual abuse as a child, and she'd already been healed of that. She had emphysema, she had circulatory problems, her feet were purple. She had uh heart problems, thyroid problems, she had a long list of problems. So I prayed for her for about 10 minutes, and I knew I wasn't going to have enough time to get everything healed. So as I was praying, I felt like the Lord told me, "Tell her you're going to send angels to follow her around at home when she leaves the conference". So I did that so I did that. I said, "Look, I believe the Lord wants me to tell you, that we're going to have Angels follow you around, for the rest of the week after you leave the conference. They're going to continue to heal
Sid Roth: Now that's a pretty wild statement for someone to make! But then you're wild!
Dave Hayes: But I, look, you know I try to be obedient, and it just requires sometimes taking that leap of faith. So I had never heard the Lord say that before. So I told her that, and then I went back to the conference. She emailed me a couple of weeks later, and said, "You're not going to believe what happened. First of all, the next day, the purple skin on my feet turned normal color. Everybody noticed that my circulation cleared up". She went to an appointment that week, and they noticed that her breathing was normal, she wasn't huffing and puffing and wheezing like she had been. And she said, "But the most amazing thing was, the Wednesday after I went home, I was going to sleep that night, I laid down in bed, and as I was laying in bed, I saw an Angel standing next to my bed, and he was dumping oil over me". And she said, "My breathing is better, all my health conditions are going away". She has continued to email me over the last few months, she's continuing to the healing is continuing, and she's giving me updates on each condition, as it's being healed. And I believe those Angels are still releasing healing on her.
Sid Roth: You know many years ago, as a new believer, I saw Dr. Kenneth Hagin who's now in Heaven uh minister great miracles! And I then I heard him teach on how we could do it, and I said to myself, "You can't teach a gift! A gift is a gift"! You hear from God! You can't teach others to hear from God! Or can you?
Dave Hayes: Yes, you can, and yes, I do. I do not believe what a lot of people believe about prophecy, about hearing from God, seeing visions, all those angelic experiences, those are experiences anyone can have. If an atheist like me can do those things I'm not special, I don't have a special anointing. God has specifically told me, "I want you to teach My people how to operate in the supernatural: How to hear my voice, how to see visions, how to release healing", and that's what my books are about! That's what I do.
Sid Roth: Every Believer can operate in all these arenas, you operate in.
Dave Hayes: Everyone who wants to, and who's willing to practice, can do it. One of the most frequent comments I get, from people who have read my book on hearing God's voice, is, "Wow! I read your book, and I realized I was hearing God! He was speaking to me the whole time, I just never recognized it was Him speaking"!
Sid Roth: When you come back, Dave says if you do two things consistently, you will hear God's voice you will hear God's voice all the time! Be right back.
Sid Roth: Okay, I know you're at the edge of your seat! What are those two things, Dave? I'm ready to do it, and able, I hope! Tell me the two things.
Dave Hayes: Well, what if the two things were things that people don't like to do, naturally.
Sid Roth: I'll be candid with you, I would do anything to hear God's voice all the time, wouldn't you?
Dave Hayes: Okay. What if I told you that you have to turn off YouTube, turn off Netflix. Turn off the TV, turn off the radio, tune in tune out all that stuff?
Sid Roth: Alright. As long as you tell me I don't have to stop eating Chinese food. You can eat Chinese food. I'm kidding.
Dave Hayes: No, but when the Lord had me in my season of training because I had never seen visions, never heard God's voice, I had to go through a season of training, and that involved me shutting out all the exterior noise. God is speaking to us, and many times we don't hear or perceive He's actually speaking, because our mind is being bombarded with other things. So if you get rid of the clutter, get quiet, get in God's presence, you will realize He's already speaking to you. The two things are: We need to learn how to get still, and quiet, and we need to practice. Persistence is everything. It took me a period of months to learn how to see visions, to learn how to really hear His voice.
Sid Roth: Uh let's jump to meditating.
Dave Hayes: I'm not talking about meditation in the "New Age" sense.
Sid Roth: You'd better not be!
Dave Hayes: I'm talking about when David said, "I will meditate on Your Word, day and night. I will meditate on Your goodness. I will meditate on Your presence". I have found one of the easiest ways to get in touch with the heart of God is to meditate on His goodness.
Sid Roth: There is a Scripture that says Moses was praying, and talking to God, and Moses said, "Show me Your Glory", and God, rather than saying okay, I'll show you My Glory, said, "I will show you My goodness"! Are they synonymous, you think?
Dave Hayes: I think I believe they are.
Sid Roth: Huh!
Dave Hayes: I believe they are. When you are experiencing God's Glory, you're experiencing His goodness.
Sid Roth: Hmm! I like that!
Dave Hayes: Yep.
Sid Roth: So, when you instruct people, and they do what you instruct, will this work every time?
Dave Hayes: It will. You need a little bit of instruction. You need a little bit of teaching!
Sid Roth: Well that's why you said the first 400 people were not healed! It wasn't that God didn't want to heal them, you didn't know what you were doing!
Dave Hayes: I didn't know what I was doing! And it takes a little bit of instruction!
Sid Roth: Well speaking about not knowing what you were doing, would you believe this great, prophetic man despised Donald Trump for the Presidency! But something happened along the way. We'll be right back.
Sid Roth: You know, Dave told me, uh during the break, his strong suit is emotional healing. And you told me you want to pray for emotional healing, before physical healing. Why?
Dave Hayes: Well, like a lot of people who have seen some success in healing, you'll and if you practice, and if you pray over people, you'll get to that 80% threshold, where about 80% of the people that you pray for will get healed. But there are some conditions, autoimmune is a common one that people have a really difficult time getting success in getting them healed. So I, you know was asking the Lord, "How do I get that other 20% healed"?, and that's when the Lord started teaching me about emotional healing, and emotional trauma, and the roots of all of that. Because I worked in an ambulance, I don't have time to do a two-hour healing session on emotional healing in the ambulance. He had to give me something that was very simple, and very fast.
Sid Roth: But you found that that other 20% when you take care of the emotional, the physical is easy.
Dave Hayes: Yes. And with people, who have received a lot of prayer but haven't been healed,
Sid Roth: ...That's a lot of people...
Dave Hayes: Nowadays...
Sid Roth: ...and that's more than 20%!
Dave Hayes: ...right. Uh when I interview people who need healing, I say, "Have you received, a lot of prayer already"? If they say yes, I immediately go to emotional healing, because it's not power, it's not authority, it's usually emotional trauma. When I get them healed of the emotional trauma, the physical symptoms, whatever they are, usually are will get healed.
Sid Roth: Okay. Will you pray for emotional healing at the end of the show?
Dave Hayes: Absolutely.
Sid Roth: Are you interested? Okay. Are you interested? You're applauding at home, too. Alright. You didn't like President Trump!
Dave Hayes: I didn't!
Sid Roth: What changed your mind?
Dave Hayes: Oh...
Sid Roth: But then that was before he was President, you didn't like Donald Trump!
Dave Hayes: No. I was, my wife and I supported another candidate, we did not like Trump. And then I had these dreams. Well first, I told the Lord, "If You have specific revelation You want to give me about political candidates, I'm open to it". And then, well, He started giving me dreams about Trump, things that changed my perspective and my understanding of him.
Sid Roth: He showed you what God's intent was for Trump, well in, I think 3 dreams. Tell me briefly what that his intent was.
Dave Hayes: Before the election, He didn't show me Trump was going to be elected. He showed me what was possible if Trump got elected, one of which was a dream that I had about a month or two before the election, where Trump confronted people
Sid Roth: And I might add, all the polls said he wasn't going to win.
Dave Hayes: Right, right.
Sid Roth: But go ahead.
Dave Hayes: Trump was in this dream. I saw Trump confronting people who had attitudes, of racism, bigotry, and hatred, and he told them those attitudes are not going to be tolerated anymore. And he confronted people who had those attitudes, and before they
Sid Roth: You realize that people that are indoctrinated to most of the news would say, "Yeah, but he does have attitudes like that", I personally know that's not true. But that most people would not even believe what you're saying now, even after he's President!
Dave Hayes: Exactly.
Sid Roth: Most Christians aren't even praying for him!
Dave Hayes: I know! Isn't that sad?
Sid Roth: Alright what else did God show you?
Dave Hayes: Okay. He also gave me a dream again, just before the election where, and this was the night that Trump spoke about his plan for economic revival. And that night I had a dream where I saw, uh where I had the opportunity to express my political preference. Once I did, I expressed a political preference for Trump, I stepped through what I could only describe as like a portal, into another dimension, into the future. And I was living in I was observing a society, where we had the best of everything. We were abundantly blessed financially, no one had, any lack, no one was homeless, all of our needs were met. We lived in a very abundantly blessed society, as a result of making the right political choice.
Sid Roth: I'll tell you what, we're running out of... I'm going to tell you something. You cannot go on this if you want to know how to pray the way God wants you to pray. You've got to go by the Spirit in this day and age that we're living in! I need you to pray for people, right now, for emotional healing, and physical healing, right now.
Dave Hayes: Okay. Here is what I want you to do: I want you to think about the event in your life, that is, when you think about it, it brings up the most negative emotions whether it's shame, or guilt, or anger, whatever the emotion is. Think of the event, identify the emotions you're feeling. Ask Jesus to take those emotions from you, ask Him to heal the wound in your soul, and tell Him you receive His healing. Then I want you to wait a minute, and think of that same event again. Identify what negative emotions you feel whether it's shame, or guilt, or hatred, or whatever. Again, ask Jesus to take the emotions, ask Him to heal the wound in your soul, and tell Him you receive His healing. Okay keep doing that, until you recall that event, and there are no negative emotions, and you will be healed of the trauma of that event, and you will never feel those emotions again.
Sid Roth: And only because of time right now, I need you to pray for healing.
Dave Hayes: I command every spirit of pain to leave you. I command ligaments and bones, nerves, tendons, discs, be healed. All infirmity, I command you to leave. Inflammation, I command you to leave. I speak health over you. Lord, bring Your Glory upon them. And I command all sickness and disease to leave this person now, in the name of Jesus.
Sid Roth: Knowing God is everything! Everything and not knowing God is nothing! You will only know God if you tell God you're sorry for your sins, and you believe Jesus has washed them away, and then ask Jesus to live inside of you and be your Lord. If you've never done this, you've never done anything!