Sid Roth - God Pinned Me to the Floor and Showed Me the Future
Sid Roth: Steve Lightle was supernaturally pinned to the floor for 6-1/2 days, while God showed him future events that will impact this world, next, on this edition of "It's supernatural".
Sid Roth: Hello, I'm Sid Roth, your investigative reporter. To entrust a human with the future, you better make sure you're dealing with the right human. And God picked a Jewish man to reveal future events that will impact this earth. But he dealt with them in a very supernatural fashion. You were a successful businessman, Steve Lightle. At a young age - how old were you when you had your first stock broker's account?
Steve Lightle: Well, my dad, when I was 11 years old, said, "Every Jewish boy needs a stock broker", so at age 11 I did, and I just began to invest monies that would come to me at different holidays, birthdays, and things that...
Sid Roth: And you evolved to a business that - it's hard for me to say it with a straight face...
Steve Lightle: But it was a multi-million-dollar business called the -
Sid Roth: Dippy duck car wash.
Steve Lightle: That's correct.
Sid Roth: Let me try it: dippy duck - I can't even say it...
Steve Lightle: Yeah!
Sid Roth: Dippy duck - is that a tongue twister?
Steve Lightle: Yeah, well, not really, but nobody ever forgot the business once they came.
Sid Roth: I mean! Great idea! But one day, God spoke to you, and the last thing in the world you ever thought he'd say, what did he tell you?
Steve Lightle: He said, "Give this business away. The day is coming, you're going to get up, walk out the door of this office, and you will never come back". The year was 1973 and, you know, I mean, when that happened, I said, "God, you have to tell my wife! I'm not gonna tell her. You have to"! Exactly the same day, God spoke to my wife, judy, and told her what he told me: and it was just a short time later, he said, "This is the day. Get up. Walk out of this office, and don't you ever come back". But God had prepared us, and so I reached into the safe to get - there was $14,000 in cash...
Sid Roth: Well, that'll keep you for a little while!
Steve Lightle: And this is 1973. And the Lord said, "That's not yours, Steven".
Sid Roth: What do you mean? You worked your whole life for it!
Steve Lightle: I know, but he changed stewards. And I spun the dial, went to get the checkbook, and the Lord said, "That's not yours, Steven". But you see, God had prepared my wife and i, and one thing that we understood is that God never asks you to give up something that he does not, you know, make provision for you, for anything and everything you will ever need later, you know, on.
Sid Roth: I'm curious. Who did you give this business to - this million-dollar business?
Steve Lightle: Well, it was a man that I had done some business with in the car wash business, and then was an employee for awhile. And God spoke to him! I had no idea who to give it to. I didn't know what to do with it, and who was going to open up the next morning. I had no idea what...
Sid Roth: That fast!
Steve Lightle: That fast. It just - boom! When it happened! But God spoke to both my wife and i. We did not just up and do this.
Sid Roth: Of course.
Steve Lightle: It was something that I never, ever dreamt that would ever happen to us because i, you know, I was a businessman, and it was something that I always wanted to do, and...
Sid Roth: But how did it feel taking that - how much money was it? $14,000? And that's yours!
Steve Lightle: Yes!
Sid Roth: The business is his, but that's your - and you left it?
Steve Lightle: Left it there. Left the check - left everything! I walked out, and this man called me at my dinner table that night. I wasn't eating too much because I began to think, "All right, am I crazy? Is this really God"?, you know, and...
Sid Roth: What if it was the pizza?
Steve Lightle: Yeah but the man called me: he said, "Steve, God told me to take over dippy duck car wash"! I said, "Oh, good"! I said, "It's yours"! So he came and he got the combinations to the safes, the keys and everything, and I've never, ever been back.
Sid Roth: How did you feel when God told you to also give away all of your furniture? How about your home? Did you sell it?
Steve Lightle: Yes.
Sid Roth: Did you ask for a lot of money?
Steve Lightle: No, we gave everything away except our wedding gifts. My wife and I had retained our wedding gifts, but the Lord said give your car, give everything away that you have. And we wanted to follow Jesus in a way that he was asking us to do, but Sid, I guarantee you to this day, that he has provided and given to us things. People think we're millionaires because of what God gives back to us!
Sid Roth: So God calls you and your wife, Judy, and your two young daughters, to go to Braunschweig, Germany, with how much in your pocket?
Steve Lightle: In our pocket - this was June 1973 - and the Lord had spoken to us: "I want you to move to Braunschweig, west Germany", and when we got on the airplane, my wife and I between us had $1.28.
Sid Roth: That's not a very responsible thing to do, Steve!
Steve Lightle: No, it doesn't sound like it's very responsible.
Sid Roth: You look like you're a "Mensch", you know...
Steve Lightle: Yeah!
Sid Roth: A "Good human"!
Steve Lightle: Yeah, absolutely. But we had the Lord! And when the Lord said, "You go do this", and he said, "I'll provide".
Sid Roth: But you had these two young daughters. How old were your daughters?
Steve Lightle: The youngest five, and the oldest seven.
Sid Roth: Steve.
Steve Lightle: We had no idea where we were going to live. We had no idea...
Sid Roth: Steve, are you a superman or some... How could you do this?
Steve Lightle: No, no, no. Because of a personal relationship with the Messiah. And he had definitely shown us the things that he wanted us to do. It was a step in faith. I'd never "Walked on water", but I can begin to understand a little bit about some of the, you know, like Peter. I mean, he walked on the water, because in faith, we had to move forward.
Sid Roth: Did you have a house waiting for you? A job waiting for you at Braunschweig?
Steve Lightle: No. We had nothing - we didn't even know who was going to meet us at the airport! But some people were there.
Sid Roth: Steve, I have used this word previously, but for you, it fits: you've got "Chutzpah"!
Steve Lightle: Yeah chutzpah.
Sid Roth: "Nerve"!
Steve Lightle: But, you know, following the leading, that we know in our hearts...
Sid Roth: Did your family starve? Did your family have a place to live?
Steve Lightle: Never. We had a place to live. We've never missed a meal. Never since that time. And the Lord said, "I'm going to teach you to live by faith, with no hints. You will never hint at anything you need". And we never have. And the day came when the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said, "If you need a million dollars, I'll give it to you". And I thought, "What will I ever need a million dollars for"? Well, the day came, and he provided it. It was right there. And so we have seen some amazing, amazing things that he has provided and taken care of.
Sid Roth: Speaking of amazing things, you reached a point where you had intimacy with God, but you knew there was something wrong on the inside: something you didn't like. As a matter of fact, maybe, it is too strong to say, you were ashamed of?
Steve Lightle: There were some things, Sid, that I knew that were in my life that did not belong in the life of a believer in the Messiah: things like pride, jealousy. I was jealous when - if God used somebody else and blessed them, I could not rejoice in the blessing. I wanted to do everything. I thought I was God's man of faith and power, and so, "Why aren't you using me, Lord? Why that"? And I realized...
Sid Roth: Hold that thought. I'm going to have Steve hold that thought, and you're going to find out how Jesus - I know this is hard to believe - but this is true! Jesus came in. He had a visitation, and Jesus took an ax - I mean, an ax! - and chopped out these horrible things. Don't go away.
Sid Roth: Hi, I'm Sid Roth, your investigative reporter. I am so enraptured by our guest, Steve Lightle. He feels in his heart - I mean, here's a guy who put his life, his family, on the line for God, but he said, "There's jealousy inside of me, and I know it! I know God, but I know it. There's pride: there's envy. I want to get rid of it"! So what did you do about it?
Steve Lightle: Well, this is in August of 1974.
Sid Roth: It goes back.
Steve Lightle: Yes, and I went into a room in the city of Braunschweig, and I said, when I had my hand on the doorknob of the door, I said, "God, either I'm gonna die in this room, or you're going to change my life". And I heard, just, this gentle voice say, "How about if both things happen to you"?
Sid Roth: Oy!
Steve Lightle: Yeah. And I knew that was the Holy Spirit speaking to me. When I opened the door, I was not prepared for what happened, because I was just hit by a power. And I fell down: and I stayed on the floor of this room for 6-1/2 days.
Sid Roth: Steve, had anything like this ever happened to you before?
Steve Lightle: Nothing.
Sid Roth: Steve, you look like a mensch: were you ever on drugs?
Steve Lightle: Never.
Sid Roth: Did you ever have mental problems?
Steve Lightle: Never had mental problems.
Sid Roth: And you're saying something pinned you to the floor?
Steve Lightle: Something pinned me to the floor, and I stayed there 6-1/2 days. In the beginning I couldn't understand. I mean, I could not stand up! And I thought, well, what's going on? Is this a hallucination or - but God in his mercy, he sent three people to me, and all three people fell down, the minute they opened that door. One of them, he left immediately. He said, "I can't even breathe"! The second one stayed 20 minutes, and he had difficulty breathing. The third one, he said, "God is in this place"!, and he spent 2-1/2 days out of that 6-1/2 days with me there on the floor of the room. And it was a time of the Lord dealing in my life, and pointing things out that, you know, they weren't great things that controlled my life, but there were little roots of things: envy, strife, and bitterness, and some things that I realize that they didn't belong in me. But every once in a while it would flare up, and I would feel so bad. So at the end of this time, I'm laying on the floor: my head is on my arm like this. I had cried so many tears, I had nothing more to cry. And I heard a voice speak to me audibly, in my ears, and this voice said, "Son, trust me". I said, "Lord, I trust you"! I knew it was the Lord who was speaking. The second time, "Son, trust me"! I said, "I trust you"! The third time he said, "Son, you must trust me"! And I said, "Lord, I do"! And I lifted my head, and I looked, and standing just right beside me was the Lord Jesus, and he had an ax in his hand. And then I saw something that was so black, Sid. It was the most hideous thing.
Sid Roth: What was that?
Steve Lightle: Well, I cried out. I said, "What is that"? And the Lord said, "That's your heart". I said, "God, I can't stand it"! He said, "I can't stand it, either", and he took that ax, and he began to lay it to the roots of those things that did not belong in my life, as being a believer in the Lord Jesus. And when he did it, this liberty and this freedom came, and then he was gone. But I mean, I was free! I was free! And it's been awesome! So that then I could support and help others in a way that I'd never even known was possible before.
Sid Roth: But then, after you were free, was it like a television screen that appeared?
Steve Lightle: Well, for the first time in the 6-1/2 days, I got up and I sat in a big overstuffed chair.
Sid Roth: By the way, did you have any food? Any water?
Steve Lightle: No. I had nothing.
Sid Roth: For 6-1/2...
Steve Lightle: 6-1/2 days.
Sid Roth: Steve! The body has difficulty tolerating that.
Steve Lightle: Absolutely. But the Lord sustained me. I mean, Moses went 40 days, and then boom! Had to go up and do another 40 days, so it was something that God sustained me. And I got up and I sat in a chair, and a whole wall became a screen. I had never had anything like this happen to me before. And I sat, and I began to watch. And I began to see faces, and they were Jewish faces. And then I could see multitudes - hundreds and hundreds of thousands. And then from a height, the Lord allowed me to see the nation they're in, and it was then called the Soviet Union. And as I saw this...
Sid Roth: What year was this again?
Steve Lightle: This was in 1974. August of '74. And I'm watching on this movie right in front of me, and I'm totally conscious, but, you know, I was having a vision, which is not a strange testimony: but it's simply something that God allows to happen. And in this vision I saw God raise up men with ministries that were as great or greater than that that Moses had. We went to the authorities of the Soviet Union, and said, "Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, 'let my people go'"! And they said, "No"! And then, through prophetic prophesyings, I began to see God bring the Soviet Union to its knees - the whole nation - and God judged them, until there was no nation left. There was no "Iron curtain". One of the things that I saw, the "First plague" that I saw was a nuclear meltdown.
Sid Roth: What is a nuclear meltdown?
Steve Lightle: A nuclear meltdown was where a nuclear reactor, it began to come apart: and as it came apart, God spoke very clearly and said, "I am judging the idol of scientific knowledge that the soviets are worshipping". And when this began to happen - and there was more than one of these nuclear meltdowns - it was an accident with a nuclear reactor.
Sid Roth: Now, this was before Chernobyl?
Steve Lightle: This is 1974. Chernobyl didn't happen until in the 80s.
Sid Roth: Well, that's what you were seeing!
Steve Lightle: That's exactly what I saw. And God, and with these things happening, and he showed me these different plagues coming, until the Soviet Union literally came to its knees: and by coming to its knees, it just began to crumble. And then the Jewish people began to come out. They got on ships, and they went home to Israel. I said, "Lord! That is really wonderful, and I'm glad! But what has that got to do with me"? And I had no idea why anything like that would be shown to me. But then I began to understand, and the Holy Spirit, he just began to speak to me, and he said, "Because I want you to begin to go to the Jewish communities throughout the Soviet Union, and I want you to prepare them and tell them, 'i am going to deliver them with an Exodus out of here, and I will take them home to Israel: and you will see it in your own lifetime'". And I said, "Well, if you can prove this to me in the Bible, I will go anywhere with you, as long as you're with me". And he did. He showed me what I saw in the Bible, and then I began to go. And I've been in over 90 cities in the Soviet Union since 1974.
Sid Roth: Steve, the miracles that he saw! You've got to hear them! We'll be right back after this.
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth here, your investigative reporter, and we've just been finding out from Steve Lightle, this Jewish man, how he had a vision from God of the last days: and part of it has already come to pass. Not all of it: and as a matter of fact, he saw what he thought was a nuclear meltdown before Chernobyl. Now, when Chernobyl occurred, what did God tell you would happen? What would that be a sign of?
Steve Lightle: Well, in the vision, when the "Plagues" began to happen, to bring the Soviet Union to its knees, and before it disintegrated, the first plague that the Lord showed me was nuclear meltdowns.
Sid Roth: I have an idea there will be a lot more of them.
Steve Lightle: Yes, and there's been, Chernobyl's only one. There's been others, but it's just, not a whole lot of it is publicized, but when that happened, God just spoke, and he said, "When you see this, you will know that the Exodus is going to be right on the heels of it", because there'll be some other things that'll happen: but then the Jewish people will begin to come out, and go home to Israel.
Sid Roth: All right, since that original vision, what has happened with the Jewish people in the former Soviet Union?
Steve Lightle: Since, now, the vision was 1974. When I began to speak openly and publicly about this in 1981, people thought I fell out of a tree and landed on my head.
Sid Roth: I'm sure!
Steve Lightle: "Never will it happen"! But in 1991, the Soviet Union disintegrated. We have the whole Chernobyl meltdown: the Jewish people begin to come home to Israel: and now approximately one million have come from the former Soviet Union, and they're home in Israel! Today! Exactly as God prophesied in the Bible. And he let, by his grace, allowed me to see in the vision. It's exciting times in which we live!
Sid Roth: Now, what is going to happen to the Jewish people? Not just in the former Soviet Union, but in the four corners of the earth?
Steve Lightle: Absolutely, Sid. This is so important, because the Bible says it begins "In a country to the north". Then we saw from Ethiopia to the south - Isaiah 43, "And all the Jewish people were taken out of Ethiopia", but it says "All nations". That means the United States of America: that the six million Jewish people here...
Sid Roth: Wait a second, Steve! You've been to Israel. I've been to Israel. What American Jewish businessman would want to live in a third-world country where he doesn't even speak the language, he's outnumbered 100 to 1 by enemies that won't be happy until Jerusalem is in arab possession. We'll send our money, but we don't want to go!
Steve Lightle: That's exactly, this is what I get wherever I go in north America, and I talk to Jewish communities, Jewish people. They said, "No! I'll send my money! I'll send my money"! But God doesn't need our money! He needs us, and he wants us personally to be in Israel. He has spoken that. He spoke it through Moses. He spoke it through Isaiah. He spoke it through Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, and many of our prophets spoke and said, "We would go to the land of Israel".
Sid Roth: All right, what would cause us to go?
Steve Lightle: It's going to be...
Sid Roth: This is the greatest country the world has ever known!
Steve Lightle: That's right, Sid, and God loves this nation. However, when we turn our back upon him, and we have a little over 6 million Jewish people here. To get them to go, it's going to take cataclysmic events - economically, naturally - and things that are going to happen. God wants us to go now, because he has a plan for us, as Jewish people.
Sid Roth: All right, there is increased anti-semitism in the former Soviet Union, and that is the catalyst that's causing Russian Jews who said, "Well, maybe we'll stay here. Maybe it'll be okay". They're lining up for their "Aliyah", to return to Israel. So what about America? Will there be that same anti-semitism?
Steve Lightle: Absolutely. There's going to be a rise of anti-semitism, and the Jewish people will be blamed for what's going to happen in this nation, because the Bible is very clear. Ezekiel, chapter 36, God says, "I will leave none of the Jewish people in the nations that I scattered them to". He will return every living Jewish person back to the land of Israel.
Sid Roth: What happened with many of the Jewish people that were escaping from Hitler's Germany, when they came to the various nations?
Steve Lightle: Well, one of the things that happened, we have to remember, that God raised at least five, that I know of, prophets - Jewish prophets -
Sid Roth: Zionists.
Steve Lightle: Zionists, before Hitler came to power, that went to every Jewish community. People like Dr. Max Nardou, Jabotinsky, and there were three others, and they went and they said, "Go!", and the people laughed them out of the synagogues. And so then when Hitler came to power, and then president Franklin Roosevelt of the United States called a conference to be held in Evian, France: and the whole world rejected the Jewish people. Hitler offered the Jews of Germany and Austria for sale: $250 a head, for every man, woman and child. Even if they would do that, but the nations of the world - and all they had to do - the participants - was to take 25,000 each, and there would have been no holocaust. And I personally believe there would have been no World War II. But because the nations rejected the Jewish people, and then some got on ships. And one of the most famous was called - a ship called "The St. Louis" - over 900 Jewish people sailed out of Germany: came to the United States, went to Ellis Island, and were refused the right to come into this nation. They went to Quebec city in Canada: they were refused there, and they had to go back to Germany: and most of them - not all - but almost all were killed in the concentration camps. We have other ships that did the same thing.
Sid Roth: What, in your opinion, will American Christians do, when it's life-threatening to help a Jew?
Steve Lightle: Well, this is something that Christians here need to be prepared for, at this time, as Rahab was prepared in the time of Jericho, and hid two Jewish spies, and took them in. And when she helped them to go back to their people, and when the walls of Jericho came down, one family still existed, and that was Rahab's family. The same thing will happen today: that if we help the Jewish people - because they're going to need help from north America - it seems like something that's totally impossible at this time. "What do you mean"? But it will change. Cataclysmic events are coming - both economically and naturally - that the Jewish people will be blamed for, and those Christians who have prepared their hearts will help them to go. And God will move - in one of the greatest evangelistic moves that ever has been known in the history of the earth - will happen in this nation, as he returns the six million back home to Israel, because God's going to deal with us.
Sid Roth: You realize what you're hearing right now? This is happening right before our very eyes, and as Mordecai told Esther, "If you don't stand up for the Jewish people, God will raise deliverance from another source: but Esther! Who knows? If you've not been called to the kingdom, for such a time as this"? I do not believe it's an accident that you have been watching "It's supernatural". It's because God wants to prepare you, and wants to give you a presence, an anointing upon yourself, to have supernatural love for the Jewish people, so he can use you, just like Esther of old. "There was no one that could go before the king except Esther, and this was a - no people - she had no business being queen: but God, because of his mercy, drew Esther to become queen of the land. And if you know the Messiah, you are "Grafted in" to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - and yes - you have the blessing: but you also have the responsibility. "Esther! Who knows? If you've not been called to the kingdom, for such a time as this"? I urge you to ask for that anointing of God to fall upon you, right now, to prepare you for the greatest adventure of your life. And tune in next week to "It's supernatural"!.