Sid Roth - Revelation of God's Goodness Will Change Your Life
Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it's naturally supernatural. I have seen my guest Bill Johnson stand in front of a group of people and I have seen so many miracles erupt. But Bill has told me that the greatest revelation he has ever been given for miracles, for you to fulfill your destiny, he's ready to reveal right now and I promise you if you grab hold of this it will be the most important revelation for all the promises of God in your life. You ready to grab hold? Yes! Well actually, this revelation is so simple I can say it in three words, but it's not an intellectual thing. It's a supernatural revelation and if you just get in your head that will be good, but not good enough to activate the promises of God, not good enough to fulfill your destiny. So Bill, we're on the edge of our seat. What's the revelation?
Bill Johnson: God is good.
Sid Roth: Have you ever heard before? God is good. Why is this such an important revelation to you? I mean, you spent over two decades known for someone that moves in the miraculous. I mean, the miracles that happen is, I mean, it's phenomenal. I mean, it's normal according to the Bible, but it's phenomenal according to most people.
Bill Johnson: What you know about God changes who you are. It defines your purpose. It defines your destiny. It shapes how you live. It shapes how you think most of all. Everything comes from your perspective on life. And the way you view God changes everything that you see about life itself on Planet Earth, what God's assignment for our life. When we see he is good all revelation comes as an invitation for encounter. None of it is given to us just to make us smarter, just to increase our intellectual capacity. All of it is an invitation to encounter God in that area. So he says taste and see that the Lord is good. Taste is an experience. See is perception. You'll perceive more clearly what you can experience and the Lord is inviting us to see and to taste, and to perceive his goodness on a whole different level.
Sid Roth: You actually, I mean, this is a strong statement, you call it the cornerstone of all theology. Why would you say that?
Bill Johnson: Yes, it is. Everything comes from the goodness of God. Everything about him, he is as good as he is Holy. His love, of course, he is love. But that goodness of God, I think is the root system that everything comes from. And when you see that, when that becomes settled in my heart then there are things that I used to question that would happen, that I no longer question because I see everything is defined by his goodness. It's not, his goodness isn't defined by circumstances. It's the other way around. And just seeing that brings a rest to my heart so that I can trust him in all situations. The enemy's whole thing is wanting me to become introspective. He wants me to be wrapped up in evaluating what I'm doing. And especially for those who have a great passion to know God, to live like Jesus, be like Jesus it's an easy trap to fall into because when I look inward, I'm not looking where faith will increase. I actually look where faith will diminish because I become more self-reliant than I am God-reliant. So the Lord longs for us to turn our attention towards him. It's not that the issue of life that he's dealing with aren't important. They are, but he is dealing with them, not us. He is dealing with them and as we look to him we come into a place of rest, and faith comes out of rest, not striving. It's not the result of works, it's the result of surrender. And when that is our approach to our relationship with God, faith is much more normal and natural.
Sid Roth: You said something a little earlier. You said that God is good, in your heart is settled.
Bill Johnson: Yes.
Sid Roth: But we have many people that are questioning a lot of things. How can we get where you are and where I am? In fact, even more important, why is it so important to get there?
Bill Johnson: Well it's vital because it changes who you are. It changes your perception on life. And if I mistake God's nature I will mistake how I live. It's the whole statement that's made. Whatever you misdiagnose you will mistreat. And so you'll always try to answer questions that people are asking. You'll always try to solve problems that really God is not working or he's taking a different approach on, and so we become people who work extremely hard, but very, very ineffective, because everything comes out of the goodness of God. It's a vital thing to perceive because it changes how we view, even things we don't understand, it changes mystery. It changes loss. It changes the questions that we have. I have more questions than I've ever had. It's not that my knowledge increases where I've got all these answers. It's just I have the answers I need and the answer I need is that he is 100 percent always good and he is a perfect Father. Jesus came to reveal him as Father. The greatest revelation that Jesus brought to us is really unveiled to us constantly in the Gospel of John is that Jesus is a father and he's a perfect father. He came to a plant of orphans to reveal the Father as Father. And once that becomes settled then I may not know the answer to this problem or this challenge, but I know I'm approaching God who is good, who has already worked on my behalf to bring out a right solution.
Sid Roth: You know what, Bill, if you knew the answer to everything that would make you God. And have you found out there's a whole lot we don't understand. That's what makes us human.
Bill Johnson: Yes, that's right.
Sid Roth: This word trust is such an important word. You were in Brazil speaking and you got a call no son ever wants to get. You have meetings and miracles are going on, and you get a phone call. What were you informed?
Bill Johnson: I got a call that my dad had had what we thought was going to be a minor procedure. When they opened him up they found that he had pancreatic cancer, which is one of the worst kinds of cancer you can have. I was there with my really dear friend Randy Clark, joining him.
Sid Roth: Now you have two great miracle ministries and your own dad calls, and he has an impossible situation. Just out of curiosity, what went through your mind when he said that to you?
Bill Johnson: It's time for a miracle. It's time for a miracle. So I got released from Randy to fly home immediately. I caught the next flight out and flew home, and then over the next several months spent many, many times ministering to him, praying for him, away from him as well in prayer, and just contending that breakthrough for that miracle.
Sid Roth: But you didn't have a miracle.
Bill Johnson: No. No.
Sid Roth: So your dad died. What are your conclusions?
Bill Johnson: You know, I don't ask God why on these things. I just know he didn't cause the disease. I know he's big enough to use any problem, so he can turn any situation around for his glory. And it's a win-win in this kind of a situation because my dad is a powerful man of God. He's a believer. To go home with the Lord, to remain on with us, to help us, it's a win-win situation. So that part is settled. As far as...
Sid Roth: How about the part of God is good. Is that really settled with you when your dad dies?
Bill Johnson: Yes, it is. The Lord wasn't really speaking to me about that then. But I will admit I've had to learn more about the goodness of God since that loss than all the years previous. It was something he was already working on in me to show me, but it really exploded after that. When my dad died we gathered around his bed. He was there in our home. We had our entire family. I forget now, 20 to 30 members surrounded his bed, and we began to give God thanks. We began to honor him for his goodness. We began to give him praise because he is the one who heals the sick. He raises the dead. He does all these things. And we just lifted our praise because I wanted, I know that in Heaven I'll never have a chance to give God an offering out of loss, out of pain, out of confusion. I'll never have that context in which to give him an offering in Heaven. I only have a chance to give that to him now. So as a family, we grabbed our moment. We made a covenant to walk in the anointing that my dad carried, which is primarily as a worshiper, and we made a covenant as a family to carry that mantle, and then we just offered up an offering. It was a sacrifice, but we offered the sacrifice of praise for his goodness, and it unlocked something for me.
Sid Roth: I'm going to tell you what it would do for me. What it would do for me, I would go after cancer, I would go after heart trouble, I would go after diabetes with a vengeance.
Bill Johnson: Exactly. You either run away from it in reaction to your pain, to your loss, or you run after it. It's like David picking up the stones and running at Goliath. Cancer has been the Goliath in the church and we've got to pick up the stones and run at the problem instead of avoiding it. I agree.
Sid Roth: Did you see an increase in the miraculous?
Bill Johnson: Yes. It was not immediately, like the next week or two weeks. Because I believe there's an important season of mourning. Mourning that's wrong takes you to unbelief. Mourning that's right brings you to a place of receiving comfort and healing, and that's what we did. We just took a brief time to mourn until we felt that things were settled in our heart and then began to pursue. And yes, so we've been seeing that.
Sid Roth: You told me that your model is Jesus.
Bill Johnson: Yes.
Sid Roth: What was, what did you learn from your model about healing, not necessarily with your dad, but what did Jesus model about healing?
Bill Johnson: Just in general, he healed everyone who came to him, number one, and he healed everyone the Father sent him to. He did not heal everyone who was sick, who was alive, because we know he healed the one man at the pool of Bethesda and there were many others around the pool. Tragically, our theology today tends to be built around what didn't happen instead of what God did do. But Jesus healed everyone who came to him, healed everyone that the Father directed him to. That's the only standard that I'm willing to follow.
Sid Roth: So will you lower your standard any because of what happened?
Bill Johnson: Well I can't. I can't. I may do horrible at my assignment, but I can't change my assignment so that I feel good about myself. I have to accept the assignment God gave me, is the standard that Jesus set. I have to embrace that. I can't lower the standard of Scripture to my level of experience. I'm spending my lifetime trying to raise my level of experience to the standard of Scripture.
Sid Roth: How would you like me to turn Bill Johnson loose as payback time on what happened to his dad? Anyone interested? Be right back.
Sid Roth: Now this revelation, God is good, Bill, you said God is better than we think. What did you mean by that?
Bill Johnson: Well you can't exaggerate God's goodness. It's impossible. If I could comprehend his goodness, I would be God, not him. He is far beyond everything we can possibly imagine, and so we have to, in our experience with his goodness, in that invitation to Divine encounter, as that increases in our life, we have to adjust our thinking. That's really what repentance means. Repentance means to change the way you think.
Sid Roth: Right.
Bill Johnson: It's the remorse over sin, obviously, but it has to affect how I perceive reality. And that's what the Lord is looking for.
Sid Roth: So what happens, and you can't stop the devil from planting thoughts. He plants a negative thought about God in your head. What goes on inside of you when that happens?
Bill Johnson: Well you replace it with truth. I don't give it much attention, to be honest with you. I don't want to flatter the enemy with success and feeling successful in anything. So I really work hard to give him as little attention as possible and just to feed myself with truth. I may prophecy. I may declare something true. I may declare a scripture that contradicts what the enemy said. Often times I'll just sing a song of praise. I'll sing spontaneously to the Lord in the very area that the enemy questions. If it's an area about not having enough for this next month or something, I praise God for his abundance. And that's just what I do, is I go against what the enemy has done and do it with truth. Truth brings life.
Sid Roth: Why is there such a conflict over this term, the goodness of God?
Bill Johnson: Because it's key to the last days' harvest. If the enemy can mess us up on our view of God then he has injured our capacity to represent the goodness of a perfect father.
Sid Roth: Can you prove that in Scripture that it has to do with the End Time revival?
Bill Johnson: Yes, absolutely. Hosea 3:5 says, "In the last days the people will fear God because of his goodness".
Sid Roth: I like that. How about you?
Bill Johnson: Psalm 67 is actually my most favorite passage on this area because it ends with nations coming to Christ. And it's through the process of the goodness of God being revealed upon his people.
Sid Roth: I think it must be the devil that tries to rob us of our destiny by challenging the goodness of God.
Bill Johnson: If we question his goodness, we'll question his promise. If we question his promise, we've undermined our own destiny.
Sid Roth: It's just coming to our senses that God is good.
Bill Johnson: Yes. Faith, real faith doesn't deny the existence of a problem. It just denies that problem a place of influence. It's not living in denial. It's not living as the ostrich, ignoring all the difficulties that are going on. It's just seeing them through the eyes of hope, seeing them through the intentions of purposes of a perfect father. When you taste of his goodness and you see that it is absolutely 100 percent constant then everything becomes redefined by that goodness.
Sid Roth: Okay. You told me that Jesus is your model. Jesus is my model. Jesus is your model. Would you, I heard people with neck and back problems. It's like chiropractors are going to get so jealous of you. You're going to be healed right now in Jesus' name. Bill, would you pray.
Bill Johnson: Yes, absolutely. I have the sense arthritic conditions, specifically in the neck that have been really crippling, there's a lot of pain that shoots up into the head as a result of this and the Lord is bringing healing. I believe he's doing a creative miracle and restoring damaged vertebrae in the neck from the base of the skull all the way to the top of the back, the upper portion of the back. The Lord is also healing deafness, and specifically somebody that's completely deaf in the right ear. We've seen the Lord heal people with a severed nerve to the ear where there's no possibility of hearing again because of that. And I've got a sense that today is going to restore that once again. We talked earlier about pancreatic cancer and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Whenever you talk about a miracle that God has done he's actually prophesying and declaring to us he is present and he's ready to do the miracle again. And I just sense that you bringing that up today is underscoring the fact that God wants to set people completely, totally 100 percent free from now on and forever from pancreatic cancer. So I declare the release, the deliverance of that spirit of infirmity on the body right now in the name of Jesus. There's somebody who has a serious issue with the kidneys and I think specifically the right kidney. There is ongoing pain. I think there's infection, that sort of thing, but I think there's a deeper problem with disease in that kidney. I believe the Lord is restoring that. He does creative miracles. He makes all things new and that comes right out of his heart, right out of his goodness. So I declare that over you in Jesus' name. I believe that there are learning disorders, dyslexia, other issues of the brain that God is healing. There is somebody that has some sort of an infection and some sort of an issue with the blood vessel. I forget what it's called, forgive me, but there's something to do with the brain that has caused very serious, serious problems for it. But we see Jesus heal this regularly and I believe that he is doing that right now. He is declaring healing over dyslexia, over learning disorders, trauma to the brain. There are people who have lost use of limbs because of a blow to the head. Some the ability to concentrate, to think clearly, to work with math or geography, all those things, have disappeared from your life because of a head trauma. And Jesus himself is restoring that part of your brain. We just break that assignment of the enemy to allow trauma to continuously afflict you with loss. And I declare in Jesus' name trauma leaves now and Jesus himself restores what was stolen. He is the God who restores. And he doesn't just restore back to what it was, he restores always to a place greater than before. I just declare that healing word. I believe he's healing food allergies, very serious food allergies. We've seen people just literally stand in proxy to representing their child who couldn't eat wheat or drink milk, and immediately after the meeting go home and have pizza, and watch the Lord has completely healed the child. I feel like the Lord is just healing some of those issues of the digestive system. The Lord says food was created for us to enjoy and to offer thanks for. And so when we get robbed of not being able to eat what he's provided for us it's the work of the enemy. It's not God. It's not just well that's just life. It's not life. It's death and it's not a part of God's destiny for you. I believe the Lord is releasing a healing throughout the colon, the entire intestinal area, colitis, Crohn's disease. We see that just lift off of people. So we just declare once again Jesus' name, Jesus is the one who heals and delivers people from Crohn's disease, colitis, all these afflictions of the intestinal system, digestive system. We declare that in the mighty, mighty name of Jesus. There's somebody who has an infection in behind the right eye and the Lord is restoring that sight to you. I believe in that case it's going to begin gradually. As soon as you notice the progress, give thanks. Don't wait for the full manifestation because whatever we give thanks for increases. The loaves and fishes multiplied after Jesus gave thanks. And I believe there are some of you that are going to see the beginning of a miracle. Give thanks then because that's the atmosphere in which things increase in the Kingdom.
Sid Roth: And Bill and I agree for a hundred percent trust that, say it with me, God is good.