Sid Roth - Jesus Told This Girl About His Soon Return
Sid Roth: Now my guests naturally are in the supernatural: Wesley and Stacey Campbell. And Stacey, when you were very young, you had no paradigm of God. You didn't understand anything about God, and yet, he came to you. Tell me about that.
Stacey Campbell: I mean, long before I had, you know we went to church on Sundays occasionally. But I had a dream where Jesus appeared to me. Where Yeshua actually appeared to me. And when he did, he spoke audibly to me. I was only, say, probably 5 years old, 6 years old. Very, very young. And he audibly spoke to me. And he said these words: "Christ has died. Christ has risen. Christ will come again". And the emphasis was on: he was coming again. And from that moment on, I knew things. I knew things that I didn't know before. I had what they would call, like an impartation of the fear of the Lord. I always knew what was right, I always knew what was wrong. I was the white sheep in my family, I always say. It was an extraordinary thing that led me, initially in, to the knowledge of God: into a pursuit of God that has never left me to this day.
Sid Roth: And Wesley, before the two of you got married, you were involved in what denomination?
Wesley Campbell: It was called the Plymouth brethren.
Sid Roth: I understand you didn't like musical instruments.
Wesley Campbell: They didn't.
Sid Roth: They didn't like musical instruments.
Wesley Campbell: They didn't.
Sid Roth: The women wore hats.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah, head doilies, lace things.
Sid Roth: So it was...
Wesley Campbell: It was really boring, it was, really, really hard.
Sid Roth: Boring, and dry.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah, yeah.
Sid Roth: And so Stacey, why did you marry into such a boring, dry...?
Stacey Campbell: Well, it was because I was always looking for God, from that one dream. I was searching for God, and nobody ever told me about God. I remember in grade 8, you know being taught evolution, and I stuck my hand up and said, "I thought God created the world". And he said, "Well, God was the initiator of the big bang, and you know, but we're left to find our own way". So, nobody talked to me about God. Here I was searching for him, and nobody told me anything. So Wesley...
Wesley Campbell: I was the first one.
Stacey Campbell: He was the first one almost. And he was telling me all about God, so I just followed him to church. It was my first real Bible-believing church experience, and so, I believed everything they taught me.
Sid Roth: And you began to pray the Bible. What do you mean by that?
Stacey Campbell: Yeah, well, when I was 16 years old because I'd never read the Bible, I didn't know anything about it. I was the dumbest one in church. And so I was actually, pretty good in school, so it was embarrassing to me when they would say, "Ok, open your Bibles to the book of Philippians". And I remember the first time: I looked at the person next to me and said: "What page is it on"? I was so biblically illiterate. So I thought, "Well, I'm going to get a head start. I'm going to go home and read the book of Philippians". So when I went to do it, I couldn't understand a word it said. Because you know the natural man does not understand the things of the Spirit of God. So in order to understand it, I would have to pray it really, really slowly. And I began...
Wesley Campbell: You would say it back to God.
Stacey Campbell: Yeah, I just began the ancient, almost just ancient practice of meditating on the law of God. From Jewish days, Joshua 1:8, I began it as a 16-year-old, biblically illiterate, you know in an alcoholic home where all my brothers and sisters (five brothers and a twin sister), were on drugs, almost all of them. And in that context, I learned how to pray the Bible, and eventually all the words of the Bible lead you to the author of the words.
Sid Roth: And all of the supernatural things that occurred to you...
Stacey Campbell: Everything.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah.
Sid Roth: As a result of this ancient way of praying that most Christians have never even heard of. You'll find out more about this. But Stacey, tell me about the time that God told you to marry Wesley.
Stacey Campbell: I had my most phenomenal experiences in my times of private prayer. I prayed every single day. I was at university, second, third year university.
Wesley Campbell: Vancouver, British Columbia.
Stacey Campbell: And I was studying French and German. And I remembered you know, Wesley was on the mission field in Nigeria. And I was thinking, you know, "We've been going out now for three and a half years, but I don't think: I want to be a career person, he wants to be a pastor in this little church. And we're not going anywhere". So I determined that we would just break up. And I was praying the Bible, Isaiah chapter 40, and suddenly, with my head covering on, all by myself in my dormitory room.
Wesley Campbell: In a university dorm room.
Stacey Campbell: And as I began to pray Isaiah chapter 40, how God was Lord of the nations, the whole room began to light up with his golden glow. And I went, "Mmmmm", and I was not alone. And I looked down at my Bible, and the words were almost leaping off the page, how the nations were as nothing before him. And suddenly I closed my eyes, and tears were falling on my Bible, and suddenly I had an out of body experience. I don't know how to describe it other than that. My spirit left my body. I knew I was with the Lord. We were flying around the nations of the world. You know, and he'd show me, and we'd zero in on nations. Zero in on places that were even at war at that time. And zoom up and go to another continent. And I could see the faces of people, black faces, and then asian faces. And then we'd zoom back up, and suddenly my spirit went back in my body. I'm looking at my Bible, tears were pouring onto my Bible. And I hear the audible voice of God. And you know, this was with my head covering on and everything. And the Lord said to me "I am Lord of the nations. And I am Lord of you. And I want you to marry Wesley".
Sid Roth: Well, that's one of the most interesting stories that I've heard. But tell me about the first time you formally saw someone prophesy.
Stacey Campbell: I didn't believe it because I was from this conservative denomination. We started the doctrine of "Cessationism": that all the supernatural things in the Bible no longer happened.
Wesley Campbell: Darby and all that.
Sid Roth: I'm glad I never heard of that.
Stacey Campbell: And I remember Wesley was much more open than me to supernatural things. And I kind of believed that people that believed in supernatural things were emotional at best, or demon possessed at worst. So I kind of, 'whatever'. And Wesley invited these people to our Baptist church that moved in the gift of prophecy, but they were very calm. And they were prophesying over a person, and as they began to prophesy over him, the man began to cry. So I'm thinking, "Wow" you know, I knew this man really well, I'd never seen him cry. So I thought, something's here, and the room began to fill with his presence. And suddenly my leg begins to shake. And I put my hand on my leg to stop it, and the other leg, begins to shake like this.
Sid Roth: Had this ever happened before?
Stacey Campbell: Never happened before. So I put my hands on both legs, and my whole body begins to bounce. It's impossible!
Wesley Campbell: Off the chair.
Stacey Campbell: You know about a foot off the chair: six inches to a foot off the chair. Bang, bang, bang! I was very demonstrative, very loud. I was so embarrassed. I looked down at my stomach, and it's moving like this. I had my eyes open, it starts to move. And I could feel this wind coming up my windpipe, and I clenched my teeth to stop this wind from bursting out of my mouth. When I did, my cheeks began puffing, so I put my hand over my mouth, and the wind blew my hand off my mouth and I began speaking in another language: speaking in tongues at the top of my lungs, shaking like this, violently. Nobody had even prayed for me. It was in a Baptist church.
Wesley Campbell: They were praying for him over there.
Stacey Campbell: I'd gone to Baptist seminary after university, I taught all of this, I taught didn't exist, and I'm shocked. And yet, inside I felt completely peaceful. I felt the presence of God. I knew this man was being healed of deep issues. My whole mind just went warp factor three you know. It was shocking to me, of all people.
Sid Roth: And shortly thereafter, you started prophesying over people.
Stacey Campbell: It was like I could just know things. I'd always known things since my initial visitation as a child, but I didn't know that everybody didn't know those things. But after this experience happened to me, my body would shake in certain ways.
Wesley Campbell: Involuntarily.
Stacey Campbell: And scriptures would come to mind. And I actually learned how to prophesy through the manifestations. And the combination of the word that I'd been taught deeply through the Plymouth brethren church, which I love my history there, and through manifestations, I learned how to prophesy over people. I could feel things.
Sid Roth: Tell me about the prophecy we're going to look at that occurred in Las Vegas.
Stacey Campbell: It works anywhere. I was out on the streets. I was with a group, and we were ministering. And they wanted to kind of film how the supernatural works anywhere you know, even out on the streets. So we're going out on the streets, and this lady said, "There's a man that just got out of prison. Could you come pray for him? He speaks Spanish". I said I need an interpreter, so this other lady came. They're talking to this man, and I said, "Would you mind if I prayed for you"? I began to pray for him. Every single time, I'm so amazed at the love of God. This man was sentenced to twenty years in prison: he spent thirteen years in prison. And I began to...
Sid Roth: He'd actually just got out?
Stacey Campbell: He got out that day!
Wesley Campbell: That day.
Stacey Campbell: And he was just wandering the streets.
Wesley Campbell: Las Vegas.
Stacey Campbell: Didn't know where to go. And the Lord finds him through this group of believers you know. And we, I closed my eyes and prayed for him. Suddenly I could see very specific details.
Sid Roth: Let's take a look at that right now.
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth here with Wesley and Stacey Campbell. Ever since Stacey was activated to prophesy, she's gone on to prophesy to over 25,000 different people. Like the one we just saw, the man that just got out of prison, how did he react afterward?
Stacey Campbell: Well he got saved right there on the streets, and then a Spanish pastor was right there and took him to his church.
Wesley Campbell: He was weeping.
Stacey Campbell: He was weeping. He was so different. His whole countenance changed. He was looking for God. Actually, the truth is, God was looking for him.
Sid Roth: But tell me about the time you prophesied to Wesley.
Stacey Campbell: Oh, Wesley. We would have these prayer meetings when the Holy Spirit first fell. And God would give us like DNA, things, callings that he wanted us to do. And one of them was prayer. Now Wesley didn't like praying. He was like the ultimate evangelist. He thought God knew everything he was going to do, so we just needed to do it. He hated prayer.
Sid Roth: Well, actually, a lot of pragmatic people...
Wesley Campbell: Yes.
Sid Roth: Because they don't see results...
Stacey Campbell: Yes.
Wesley Campbell: Yes.
Sid Roth: Are prayerless. So tell me about the prophecy.
Stacey Campbell: We began to prophesy over him, not just me, but the other pastors of the church. "Wesley"! And a really strong exhortation to pray.
Wesley Campbell: With manifestations of kicking and chopping.
Stacey Campbell: "If you do not pray..."
Sid Roth: Really? Kicking and chopping?
Wesley Campbell: Yeah. Her feet were kicking, (you bad...) and she was going like this.
Stacey Campbell: I didn't say, "You're bad".
Wesley Campbell: No, well...
Sid Roth: She looks so conservative, a nice conservative Canadian.
Wesley Campbell: No, no, they were kicking.
Stacey Campbell: Chopping.
Wesley Campbell: These manifestations, which they would interpret by, the feelings, like angry feelings. And so I knew God was like, really upset with me. I got that.
Sid Roth: So what did you say to him? Or, what did God say to him?
Stacey Campbell: Said "If you do not pray, God will take this ministry from you like this piece of paper from your hands". That was David Bruce, the other pastor. Went over, grabbed the paper from his hands and crumpled it up like this, and threw it on the floor.
Wesley Campbell: She says, "I've been in the closet waiting for you, but you did not come! You did not come"!
Stacey Campbell: That was the Lord speaking.
Wesley Campbell: The Lord speaking. It was a major rebuke.
Sid Roth: Well, making a long story short, you decided that was from God?
Wesley Campbell: I thought if I don't learn to pray, God's going to kill me.
Sid Roth: Did you really believe that?
Wesley Campbell: No, no. But I knew I was in big trouble. I was in big trouble. So I went on a massive pursuit, traveled the nations, went to hear mike bickle. I went on a pursuit to learn how to pray.
Sid Roth: And what? Obviously, God wanted something with you. But then, this book "Praying the Bible". I told you before we went on the air, I come from a Jewish background. Both of my parents are Jewish. And I always would go to the orthodox synagogue, take the prayer book, which was mostly scripture, and pray it out loud.
Wesley Campbell: Exactly.
Sid Roth: Then, the moment I became a believer in Jesus as the Messiah, I started praying to myself.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
Sid Roth: What's wrong with me? Am I 'meshuga'? Am I crazy?
Wesley Campbell: That's what's wrong. For activist people. A lot of people love God so much. And they want to talk to God. They try to pray, their mind wanders, they can't concentrate. So simple. It was all in the Bible all along. Joshua 1:8. Meditate on the law, the scriptures, direction to God, day and night. Frequency: every day. The whole concept of meditation, Jewish meditation, was out-loud recitation with a text, with a scripture. So I learned because I couldn't focus at all. I always say about men and boys, learn to pray out loud. Why? So that you'll know when you've stopped. In other words, most people, when they're praying, in their heads, they don't even know if they're actually doing it. So I tell people to take a Bible text because that's the only way you can go out loud because you have to have a text. Like the Lord's prayer: our father who is in heaven, holy is your name. Then when they do it out loud, they actually have a duration. I always say this.
Sid Roth: But it's beyond that. The spoken word...
Stacey Campbell: Yes!
Wesley Campbell: Yes!
Sid Roth: Has power!
Wesley Campbell: Totally!
Sid Roth: It's tangible!
Wesley Campbell: Totally!
Sid Roth: It's a force. And we're losing this when we read the Bible to ourselves.
Wesley Campbell: Exactly.
Sid Roth: Or when we pray even, to ourselves.
Wesley Campbell: In fact, she was studying the other day in a book about the Book of Revelation. And we found out that no one ever even read books out loud in the ancient world. They said Julius Caesar was one of the novelties because he read out loud. No one read books to themselves, they always read them out loud. All books were read out loud.
Sid Roth: But here in the west...
Wesley Campbell: We read them in our head.
Sid Roth: Yeah. And it's about time that things change. Are you tired of praying and not having God answer your prayer?
Wesley Campbell: Read the Bible.
Sid Roth: There's nothing more exciting than to have God answer your prayers. What are people saying about your book?
Wesley Campbell: Well, they love that book. People say it's so easy to read, but it shows them how. Every person, a child to an 84-year-old, can actually connect with God through praying scriptures out loud.
Sid Roth: Are you excited about praying, right now?
Wesley Campbell: Totally. All the time, especially right now.
Sid Roth: And you had to be rebuked! I tell you what, we'll be back right after this, and we'll find out about the miracle healings that are happening with Stacey. Don't go away.
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth here with Wesley and Stacey Campbell. What would happen if, wherever you go, people prophesy, and predict over you, and they say "God says you're going to have a healing ministry" and everyone you pray for, no one gets healed? You'd be a little concerned over that. That's what happened to Stacey Campbell. But things changed. When did they change?
Stacey Campbell: I had about seven years of people prophesying different countries that I would be used to heal the sick, and it never happened. I even prayed for people, and they told me afterward they got worse.
Sid Roth: Oh no! Well, it could be worse, they could've died!
Stacey Campbell: So I went to Baffin Island with the Eskimos...
Wesley Campbell: In northern Canada.
Stacey Campbell: In Northern Canada on Baffin Island, and I was doing a conference amongst the Eskimos. And this one apostolic father there said, the Lord told him to pray for me, and lay hands on me. Get all the Eskimo elders to lay hands on me, and pray for me, and ordain me in the spirit. So they all came around me, laid hands on me, prayed for me, and they only spoke Inuktitut.
Wesley Campbell: Kind of like this: tuk, tuk tuk tong tuk tuk tuk...
Stacey Campbell: Yeah, so it was really wild.
Sid Roth: That's Greek to me.
Stacey Campbell: And so when they did that, when I got up off of that experience, it was like, you know in the Bible: "They laid hands on them, stirred up the gifts that were in them". It was like an ancient anointing. And I stood up, and for the first time in my life, I felt the presence of God there to heal, the sick. I walked over to the prayer line and stood in front of this long-haired gray Eskimo lady, and I said: "Are you sick anywhere"? She said, "Yes, my knees". I hadn't seen her walk. She said, "I'm so arthritic I can barely walk". She was standing there. She'd hobbled up to the prayer line. So I laid hands on her. Like she started laughing, and she fell backward straight on the floor. She was laughing there. And she said "My knees are hot! My knees are hot"! Well, she got up. Well, I was excited, because the first time I'd ever had it happen in my life that something actually happened when I prayed for someone.
Sid Roth: I understand completely. But you know why I understand completely? The same thing happened to me. I prayed for thousands of people I believe. Not exaggerating, with no one getting healed. But I stuck with it.
Stacey Campbell: Exactly!
Sid Roth: And God honored that.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah.
Sid Roth: So she was the first one you prayed for?
Stacey Campbell: She came back that evening, I ran over to her and said, "How are you"? She said, "I'm healed, I'm healed"! In Inuktitut.
Wesley Campbell: Tuk, tuk tuk tong tuk tuk tuk...
Stacey Campbell: I said, "Come up here, tell your testimony". So the translator's translating, she said, "I could hardly walk, I was so crippled with arthritis. I could hardly move. But after they prayed for me, I was completely healed, and I walked a mile up nipple hill". I couldn't understand the translator. "Up nipple hill"? He said, "Yes". Anyway, the Eskimos are very natural, and there's this hill in town. I saw later, it just goes straight up and down.
Wesley Campbell: She walked up that straight, up and down hill.
Stacey Campbell: So that's how I remember my first healing.
Sid Roth: And her knees did not hurt?
Wesley Campbell: For the first time!
Stacey Campbell: Her knees did not hurt. It was a mile.
Sid Roth: Real quick, that woman that was schizophrenic in Denmark.
Wesley Campbell: Holland.
Stacey Campbell: Ah, oh, Holland! She came walking up to me after, and she said, oh she stuck her finger in my face and said, "I am one, I am one"! I said, "Hi, I'm Stacey". I didn't know what she was talking about. She said, "You don't understand. Last time you were in Holland, you prayed for a prophetic impartation. I walked out of that conference room where there were a couple thousand people".
Wesley Campbell: "Into another room".
Stacey Campbell: "Into another room in the conference facility". And she said, "When I walked in there I saw a visible Jesus". She said, "I saw him with my eyes". And she said, "When he opened his arms and beckoned me to come". And she said, "She's never had a prophetic Revelation". I'd prayed prophetic impartation. She walks in the room and sees Jesus.
Wesley Campbell: Like within 2 minutes.
Stacey Campbell: And when she gets close to him, she says, "He opened his arms, he put his arms around her". And she said, "It felt like he put me right inside his body". And she said, "When he opened his arms and set me back on the floor, I was completely healed. I had been fractured into over a hundred personalities. I lived 18 of them. I changed my clothes, I changed my voice, I changed my hair, I changed my makeup".
Wesley Campbell: She was schizophrenic: 18.
Stacey Campbell: Totally full on, and she said, "From that day, I have been completely healed". And now I see her every time I go to Holland, she comes to all of my meetings.
Sid Roth: Stacey, there is an awesome, awesome presence of God in this studio right now.
Stacey Campbell: Mm-hmm yeah.
Sid Roth: I can tell you that someone's neck has just been healed.
Wesley Campbell: Wow.
Stacey Campbell: Hallelujah!
Sid Roth: Stacey, will you start praying for people? I want to see, there's a fountain coming out of you right now.
Wesley Campbell: Mm.
Stacey Campbell: Father, I just pray, Lord I thank you that you love the world.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah.
Stacey Campbell: You're longing for everyone to come to you and have the Revelation of your son. And I pray God that even right now, those people: I see a woman. I see a picture of a woman who feels actually that God doesn't love her. Feels, because everything in your life has gone against you. I see you in a desperate situation, financial crisis. Everything falling apart all around you. And your biggest thing is you hope God loves you, but you've prayed over and over again, and nothing's happened. Well, I want to tell you, God has heard your prayers, and he's going to come to you today. And if you will just bow your knee and ask him into your life, the Bible says, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved". He will come into your life. And I just see you, I see you weeping on the floor. And father, I pray God for the salvation of that woman. Lord, that when she gets up off that floor. Lord, you're not outside of her you know, where she's desperate looking for you God. You're inside. Now she'll take you everywhere she goes and her whole life will be changed. Lead her, God. And I ask God for everyone that's looking for you.
Wesley Campbell: Yeah.
Stacey Campbell: Father I pray, Lord I ask God for the impartation of dreams, visions, the audible voice of God that I've heard over and over again, Lord pictures, Lord the feelings of the love of God. The kindness of God that will lead them to repentance, that will lead them to your son. I ask God that you would give that to them right now as they're listening. Thank you, God. Thank you, in Jesus' name.
Sid Roth: There's such peace. Wesley, what are you sensing?
Wesley Campbell: Same, yeah.
Sid Roth: What are you sensing? Are you sensing that peace? If for some reason you're not, you have to open your spirit up to the God of peace. The way you open your spirit up is a supernatural thing that God does himself. He does it for you. All you have to do is open yourself up. And tell God you're sorry for the sins that you've committed. And believe that the blood of Jesus washes away all of those sins. And in fact, if you'll pray that in your own words right now, that's exactly what'll happen in the invisible world. Every one of us that you've seen on my show, we all started that way. We started with a gift from God of peace. And some of you have been saying "I want peace". Well, the only you're ever going to have peace is to know the sar shalom, the Prince of Peace. And with your mouth, say "I believe Jesus. You died for my sins. And by your blood, my sins are washed clean. Dear Jesus, come inside of me. I don't want to make it alone anymore. I need your peace. I need your love. I plain need you. I make you my Lord and Savior. I love you, Lord". Tell him how much you love him. Between you and him. This is your moment now.