Sid Roth - Urgent Warning Vision from Jesus
Sid Roth: Welcome, Holy Spirit. You're our most important guest, and I'm so glad You're here. I can't wait for you, our audience, to hear how my guest Raphael Giglio's Jewish grandfather, that happened to own four prominent West Palm Beach, Florida delis, came to the Lord and then used his popular delis as Jewish evangelism centers. Then, local Jewish groups protested. Raphael, tell me about, he must be your hero, your grandfather.
Raphael Giglio: I adored and idolized my Jewish grandfather. He was the only grandfather I had. But he, later in life, was not so happy. He became very disenchanted with life, started drinking heavily. But at age 70, a neighbor spoke to him about Messiah, led him to read Isaiah 53, and he gave his life to Messiah. And he became the most excited, joy-filled, spirit-filled person I've ever met. He was filled with joy, filled with power. Proclaimed the good news of Messiah to all his friends and his family, who disowned him. But you know what? He had a joy inside him that I can only attribute to the power and joy of being filled with the Holy Spirit. Like you said, he owned these four Jewish delis. They had specialty items like latkes and matzo ball soup.
Sid Roth: Hey, you're getting me hungry! Watch it.
Raphael Giglio: But you know what? Everyone loved his food. His Jewish clientele was massive in Palm Beach County. But when he came to faith, he put, on the wall, a tract rack. You know what a track rack is?
Sid Roth: I do.
Raphael Giglio: Literature with Jewish evangelism tracts, including Messianic Vision tracts. And he was listening to Messianic Vision Radio with Sid Roth. He said, "Sid Roth told me I'm not just a Christian. I'm a completed Jew"! He was so excited. And he would serve the food. But the Jewish clientele would come in and they would order the kashas, and the latkes and the matzo ball soup. And they'd see the tracts on the wall, and he would say, "I want to introduce you to my Messiah, Jesus". They would take the tracts, and they would go home. But they weren't so happy in that community about Saul Tomberg's conversion, as they called it, to Christianity. He was just excited about being a Messianic Jew and sharing Messiah. And so they organized, and they picketed his stores. And they said, "Saul Tomberg is not a Jew"! And they tried to disparage him because he was a believing Jew. But when they would stop, they would have to take a break. And you know what they do, Sid?
Sid Roth: Go get something to eat?
Raphael Giglio: Absolutely. Go right inside and order some matzo ball soup. Let me have some latkas.
Sid Roth: Did it affect his business, all that nonsense?
Raphael Giglio: Not at all. The Lord blessed his business. And you know what he did as well? He had this big old brown Chrysler. You remember the ones that were sized of a cabin cruiser?
Sid Roth: Yeah.
Raphael Giglio: And he had some magnetic signs made. Normally, they would be on the side of a van and would say Joe's Refrigeration or something like that. But his said, "Jesus is my Messiah," both sides of them. And he would drive it around town. And eventually, he drove it up to New Jersey where my family and I live, my mom and dad and my many siblings. And he came to us. And he said, "Kids, gather around. You need to know Jesus is the Messiah"! And you know what? Many of us believed. At that time, I was 10 years old, and I gave my life to Jesus, the Messiah.
Sid Roth: Well, and I know why you call him your hero. But then there came a big difference maker in your life. His name in Hebrew, Ruach HaKodesh.
Raphael Giglio: Hm-mm.
Sid Roth: In English, Holy Spirit. Tell me about that.
Raphael Giglio: Exactly. Well, I was a believer at 10 years old. But around the time I was 13, I was praying...
Sid Roth: You were bar mitzvah'd!
Raphael Giglio: Exactly! It was. I didn't have a Jewish bar mitzvah. I had a Holy Spirit / Ruach HaKodesh bar mitzvah, praying with my friends and youth group and for hours, really. And something happened to me. I was overcome with power and boldness and the presence of what I can only attribute to the Holy Spirit. I started praying in this Spirit in a language I didn't understand. But beyond that, as I lived my life after that, I was able to preach with power. Understanding the Word of God, I never could understand it before. But now it was all making sense to me, and I can articulate it to my friends. Music, I was a music leader, a song leader. I became a worship leader bringing spiritual environments to situations through my playing of my guitar and being a Psalmist. I had gotten pretty good at guitar at that point.
Sid Roth: But what's hard for me to believe, Raphael, or even comprehend is at 16, after all those encounters, speaking in supernatural languages, feeling the presence of God, you began to drift away.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah. Yeah. So what happened was I became a little full of myself. I was one of the Jesus people of the late '70s, and I had the long hair, maybe the early '80s, and I looked a little bit like a rock star, very much a Christian, and I had gotten pretty good at guitar. I learned every song that came my way, including the Phil Keaggy songs, which I loved so much. And I started to be enticed by the things of the world, and they, the things of the world, were enticing me as well. In my high school, there were several groups that were forming secular rock bands. They wanted to play rock music. They wanted to get all the girls. They wanted to have all the attention. They wanted to have those parties. The problem was they didn't play guitar. So they knew that there was a long-haired Christian guy named Raphael. And I got invited to be in several different rock bands. And normally, it's just music. But for them, it was music and partying and a whole lifestyle that us Christian kids wanted no part of. But they were enticing. And the idea of seeing and being part of that and being an honored guitar player drew me into a lifestyle that I was not really intended to be. And I remember going to a rehearsal one time, dressed to the nines. Had my fringe vest, my long hair, my guitar on my back, and I didn't have my driver's license. So I was walking along the side of the highway, going to this band practice/secular party, and I was stopped in my tracks, arrested. And I saw this vision flash before my eyes. And it was a vision of many people languishing in darkness, being held by spiritual darkness, crying out and then me being able to lift them out of this pit to a place of glory, where Jesus was, where there was light and power and joy. And one after another, I was able to life them out. And then, the vision stopped. And then, there was a voice, and it said, "Turn to me now, or you will lose all that I have for you". And I was stunned. And the vision, I couldn't get it out of my head, and I literally turned around and walked back down the same shoulder of the road, and I went home. And I opened my Bible, and I just started reading and praying. And for a year, I opened my Bible. I read it cover to cover. I even red lettered it, because it wasn't red letter, all the places where Jesus spoke. And I started memorizing scripture. My mom, my wonderful Jewish believing mom had a Bible study for older people in my living room on Thursday nights. I started attending that Bible study. And I started to grow in my faith. And then, she said, "Why don't we have a Bible study for young people"? So on Monday nights, I had a Bible study for young people. I was preaching to my friends. I was drawing them in. And that Bible study grew, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 people packed out my living room. We ended up having to go to the high school amphitheater where hundreds of people in my town were coming to faith and praising God, worshiping and evangelizing. And it was like nothing I've ever seen. Amazing.
Sid Roth: Your grandfather must have been rooting for you.
Raphael Giglio: He was. And I want to tell you, if you have an older person in your life, a Jewish grandfather, never stop praying. Don't give up. And if there's a Jewish person in your life, don't be afraid to share the good news of Messiah with them. They are longing for it. They were designed for it. Never be afraid. Never be reluctant to share your faith with a Jewish friend or family member.
Sid Roth: Raphael, tell me the exact words that God said to you when you were falling away from Him. What did He say?
Raphael Giglio: "Turn to me now, or you will forfeit," is actually the word, "All that I have for you".
Sid Roth: "Turn to me now," God is saying to you, "Or you will forfeit all that I have for you". You don't know when your end will come. But I do know, right now, you can have a breakthrough. I do know that if you will repeat this prayer with me, to the best of your ability, no more. God doesn't expect something you're not capable of. Mean it to the best of your ability. God will hear you, and does He have a good destiny for you? You've tried the destiny of the world. Now see what God has for you. Repeat this prayer out loud with me. Mean it to the best of your ability. Dear God, I've made many mistakes in my life for which I am so sorry. I believe you shed your blood to pay the penalty for my mistakes. And because of your sacrifice, I am clean. And now that I am clean, Jesus, come and live inside of me. I make You my Savior. I make You my Lord. Amen. Now, Raphael, I'm going to ask to teach how you can fulfill the vision he had at 16. What will it accomplish? No more fear, depression or worry. Be right back.
Sid Roth: Raphael, a lot of people don't realize this, but the Ruach HaKodesh, the Holy Spirit, was with us from the very beginning. Go back at book of Genesis.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah, Genesis 1. Obviously, Genesis 1:1. In the beginning, "B'reishit," God created the heavens and the Earth. Genesis 1:2 says this. The Ruach Elohim, the Spirit of God, hovered over the face of the deep. And then, everything was created. The Ruach HaKodesh, the Ruach Elohim, the Spirit of God, was with us through the very beginning. That's why it's inherent of Jewish people to have an affinity to the Holy Spirit. And all through the Old Testament, the cloud of glory at Mt. Sinai with Moses, the parting of the Red Sea, even the people that it was poured out on, the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh... Did you know how Samson got his strength? Judges 13. The Holy Spirit came upon him. King Saul was worshiping in Gibeah, prophesying. 1 Samuel 10, the Holy Spirit was upon him. David, he was anointed in 1 Samuel 16. The Holy Spirit was upon him, the tabernacle filled with the Holy Spirit, the temple filled with the Holy Spirit. And it's amazing. The Holy Spirit was with us all the way through. Joel 2 says though, "Some day, the Holy Spirit will be poured on all flesh. Sons and daughters will prophesy". And the Holy Spirit was poured out on Pentecost. But that same Holy Spirit on Pentecost, what does it say? In Romans 8:11, "The same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you". It's the same Ruach HaKodesh.
Sid Roth: You are now fulfilling that prophetic word that God gave you of your destiny. Tell me about the... how you distinguish between spirit, soul and body.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah. So everything is spiritual. But when I got that vision of pulling people out of darkness into a place of light, out a place where they were languishing in darkness, trapped in darkness, to a place where they experience the glory of Jesus in the light. It was spiritual. People are languishing in spiritual darkness. And here's the reason why. They don't understand that they have a human spirit. Do you know that you have a spirit? 1 Thessalonians 5:23 says, "May the God of peace sanctify you through and through. May your spirit, soul and body be held blameless before the Lord at the day of Jesus Christ". In other words, your spirit, soul and body are the three parts of us. We're created in His image, right? The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. And we are three parts. But people don't understand what the spirit and soul is. You know what your body is, right?
Sid Roth: Right.
Raphael Giglio: But your spirit and soul, they're immaterial. So sometimes people don't fully understand. I believe the Word of God helps us do that as we study the Word, as we learn the Word, as we use the living and active Word. Hebrews 4:12, "The Word of God is living and active and able to pierce, dividing the soul from the spirit". So what is the soul? What is the spirit? Well, the soul basically is your mind and emotions. Everyone has one. Your unsaved friends have one. Your dog probably has a mind and emotions, but it doesn't have a spirit. In fact, most people don't have their spirit made alive. It's like three balloons, right? One is body, one is soul, and one is spirit, but that one's deflated until the Ruach HaKodesh, the breath of God, that's what it means, blows it up, fills it up and now, it's made alive. In Ephesians, when we say, and it says we're made alive, well, what was dead? And the Ephesians weren't dead. They had bodies. They had souls. But their spirits were dead. Their spirits were dead. Why? Because from the very beginning, when man fell, when Adam and Eve ate of the forbidden fruit, God told them, "The day you eat of that fruit, you will surely die". What died? Their bodies didn't die. Their souls didn't die. Their spirits died. And they were doomed forever. In fact, mankind was doomed forever. The only way out of that predicament is if someone could be born whose spirit wasn't dead. And that would require their father not being human. One was born that way, Jesus. His Father was the Holy Spirit. And so, when He came into the world, His Spirit was alive. That's how He's able to give life to each one of our spirits. When we receive Him into us, we have our body, we have our soul, but our spirit is made alive. And back to your question, "Why do people operate in fear and anxiety and worry"? Since the pandemic, people, their health, their finances, their relationships, the political climate, the world, the carnality and immorality. And I have friends, wonderful, believing friends, but they're worried, Sid. They're filled with anxiety. You know why?
Sid Roth: Why?
Raphael Giglio: They're operating in their soul and not their spirit.
Sid Roth: And they don't realize it.
Raphael Giglio: They don't realize it. It's supernatural. 1 Corinthians 2 says this, "The natural man can't perceive the things of the spirit because they're foolishness to him because they're only discerned through the spirit". So if you are walking around as a natural man, that means you're just using your soul, mind and emotions, what you think, what you feel. But when you operate and walk in and move in the Spirit of God, you have love and peace and joy and patience and kindness and goodness and gentleness, meekness, self control, and the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. That's a lot better than just your mind and emotions.
Sid Roth: You teach a lot about being governed by the spirit. Give us a practical insight.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah. So when we are governed by the spirit, we're allowing Him to control us, and it's basically a surrender of your will. Even Jesus said, "Not My will be done, but Your will be done". And when we submit to His will, that means we allow his Holy Spirit to direct us, to lead us. But Galatians 5 tells us the flesh and spirit are always in conflict with each other. It's a like a tug-of-war. Our flesh, which by the way is part of our soul, it's our sinful nature, it's the part that wants to satiate the cravings of our body, hunger and food, lust and pride and all those things. And the flesh is always trying to make way for that. But the spirit is saying, "Uh-uh. I want you to please God, to love others, to spread the Word, to move in spiritual dimensions". And so, it's a tug-of-war all the time, but when you let as Romans 8:6, "When the mind is governed by the spirit, it results in life and peace". And those are powerful words. It's eternal life and the peace that passes understanding.
Sid Roth: We don't have enough time, unfortunately, for you to teach on this, but you've made it a lifetime studying. What difference is it going to make when people really distinguish and choose to follow the spirit?
Raphael Giglio: Yeah. I wrote it in my book because it all came to me as a revelation. And I realized I needed to write it down. So I wrote a book called, it's made available, it's "Soul or The Spirit, Knowing the Difference Can Change Your Life". Soul, mind, and emotions, what you think, what you feel. And sadly, many believing people are operating that way. They think they're really smart, so they operate that way. They think they're really visceral and sensitive, so they operate that way. But they're not operating in the power of the Holy Spirit. So they lean on the resources of their soul. The problem is it's spiritual warfare. We are in spiritual warfare every day. Your soul's not going to cut it. We need to put on the full armor of God, Ephesians 6.
Sid Roth: Well, everyone understands the need to eat physical food every day, but you don't understand the need to feed your spirit every day. I've read the Bible for 20 years, 40 years. You've eaten for 20 or 40 years. You're going to stop eating physical food? Give me a break! I want you to pray for those viewers from the spirit, what God's showing you for them.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to pray. And I want to address you as I pray because I believe that you are operating in a way that you will be defeated unless you rely on the power of the Holy Spirit. So I'm going to pray that the full armor of God closes you in a spiritual way, that you will have the helmet of salvation, that you are saved by the Grace of God through faith. But you have the breastplate of righteousness guarding you from the spiritual darts of the enemy, righteousness imputed to you, that you'll hold firm to the belt of truth and that you will walk in the truth of the Word of God, that your feet would be shod with the preparation of the Gospel, meaning you'll share the good news, that you'll hold fast the sword of the spirit, which is the Word of God, and the shield of faith, which is trusting in God. But it doesn't stop there. Ephesians 6, the very next verse, says this, "Don't just stand there with the armor on. Pray in the Spirit. Pray continually in the Spirit". Friend, if you would pray in the Spirit, as the Spirit moves you and gives you utterance, pray beyond your vocabulary and that you will do warfare with the things that are coming against you, and you will be victorious. That's my prayer to you, victory in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach, Jesus the Messiah, through the Ruach HaKodesh, the Holy Spirit.
Sid Roth: And let me remind you, Paul said, "I pray without ceasing". The only way he could have prayed without ceasing is to pray in the Spirit. And then he further said, "I pray in supernatural languages, tongues, more than anyone". I want you to start saying that. Be in the Spirit, and you will not go through what the world is going through right now.
Raphael Giglio: Yeah! Absolutely.
Sid Roth: Make a quality decision.