Sid Roth - 5-Year-Old Girl Sees Jesus (This Will Wreck You)
My guest saw a vision of Messiah when she was just 5, and a supernatural substance got on her that changed the trajectory of her life. Better yet, this same supernatural substance will get upon you and change the trajectory of your life.
Sid Roth: Welcome, Holy Spirit. We recognize that You are here! This is Your platform. Take over. Oh, Holy Spirit, You've been here all day, and right now at this show, we ask You to show Yourself strong. Your people need so many things right now, and You are going to demonstrate the reality of Jesus in the Kingdom. Thank you. My guest right now is Ginger Ziegler. She was raised in an abusive, non-Christian home. Her life was filled with fear and terror, but one day, a woman took her to a meeting, and she had a vision and saw the Messiah. Tell me about that encounter, Ginger.
Ginger Ziegler: It was amazing. It was a tent meeting, and so there was sawdust all over the floor, and people were everywhere. I'd never been to anything like that, and I was very frightened because we weren't allowed to go to church, so... And I listening to the man, I guess preaching, but I didn't know that. I didn't know it was preaching, and I kept hearing the word Jesus there, but I'd only heard those words in cussing, so I didn't know what was going on, but the next thing I know is, the top of the tent went totally away, and everything went away. All the people went away, and I was going up, up, up, up, and I didn't know what was happening because I hadn't read the Bible. I had no knowledge, but I looked up, and there was Jesus, and He revealed Himself to me on the cross, but He was looking right straight in my eyes. His eyes were in my eyes, and my eyes were in His eyes, and I was a little girl, but I was just looking at Him, and His Blood came down as I was just looking at Him. I was just standing there like this. I was just looking at Him. He never said a word, but something so miraculous happened to me. I was so changed. It was... He came. This blood came down, and then I don't know how long I was gone. I didn't even know I was gone. We knew nothing about visions or being transported anywhere, and so the next thing I know I looked around, and everybody was there, and I was back in that little... We were sitting on two-by-four benches, and I was like, "I don't know what happened," but I was afraid to say anything. So the lady took me home, and when I got home, I used to stand on a little stool beside the stove where my mother cooked, and I was going, "Mother, let me tell you what happened," and I was trying to tell her. And my mother, of course, she wasn't born again, so she didn't know what I was saying, and I was going, "Can you tell me about it"? I said, "But He was... And His Blood got on me," and I was just like this, and she was going, "Yes, dear," because that's all she knew to say. I took my grandmother's... I still have her Bible today, and I took my grandmother's old Bible, and I was looking. I said, "I got to read it. I got to read it. I got to read about this Jesus". I had such a hunger. I'm telling you, I was totally transformed.
Sid Roth: Well, in '71, it got better. You went to Heaven. What happened?
Ginger Ziegler: It was really cool. I heard somebody preaching. It was a Baptist preacher, and he was preaching about being filled with the Holy Spirit, and I thought, "Hey, that's cool. I don't know what that is, but I want it". So I went and got in the prayer closet. I read Matthew 6 that said, "Go get in the closet".
Sid Roth: You literally went into a closet?
Ginger Ziegler: Well, of course I did.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Ginger Ziegler: It says so in the Bible.
Sid Roth: That's okay. I did too.
Ginger Ziegler: Well, I just read it, and I thought, "Oh, okay. I need to do that". So anyway, I went, and I got in the closet, and I was just in there, and I really didn't know what to do, and so the next thing I know, I was, boom, instantly I was in Heaven, and I didn't know that. We didn't believe that. We didn't think God did those things, but when it happens to you, you start really believing, and so I was on the streets of gold, and I knew where I was, and I was still me. It's really cool. You can be you there. It's awesome. And so I was laying like this. Then my fingertips were actually touching His toes, but up there, you can see everywhere all at the same time, and you just know stuff. It's different in the spirit realm, and as my fingertips were touching His toes, and I was worshiping, I could see Him, but I only saw Him from about here down. The throne was huge, and as I was... I'm down this way, but I could still see the throne, and I could see His clothes, and I was amazed because I thought, "Everything in Heaven is white". You think holiness, white, but it wasn't. It had this beautiful color that... I've never a color here like that, but I realized, "Hey, His throne is made out of love. What is that material"? And then His clothes, His robe, it was love, and it was iridescent, I guess you could say, it was just like, cause love was just doing this everywhere, and it's not air we breathe up there. I don't know exactly what it is, but it's love. Okay? Whatever we breathe up there, we're breathing this love, and this love...
Sid Roth: I'd much rather breathe love than oxygen. I don't know about you guys.
Ginger Ziegler: It's really cool, and so as I'm just worshiping, and I was just like, "You love me. Oh, my God. You love me. You love"! I was just so overwhelmed. I was like, "I've been saved since I was a little girl, and I didn't even know You loved me". I didn't know what was happening, and this love got all in my skin, and it got in my hair, and I was like... my veins, and I was looking, and I was like, "That's not blood in there. That's love". And this love was just all over the place, and so all this love got me, got me, got me, got me, and then I was me. I can get excited. Can you tell? And so I jumped up. Nobody was there. It was just me and Him, and so all of a sudden I went, "God loves me. God loves me". And then I had this thought because you can think up there, and we were communicating, but we weren't talking. I just knew what He was thinking, and He just knew what I was thinking, and we were thinking back and forth faster than lightning, and so I said, "Lord, Lord," I said, "They don't know You love them. I've got to go all over the world, and I got to tell everybody. I got to convince them, even if they're saved or they're not saved. They do not know You love them". I was trying to convince Him that they didn't know. So I said, "Lord, You got to let me go. I got to go tell my children. I got to tell everybody," and so the next thing I know, I'm back in the closet, and I thought, "I've been gone". I didn't know I'd been gone until I got back, and so I went flying out of the closet, and my husband and kids was in the kitchen, and I went full-blast. I was just running toward... And they were like, "Ah"! They started screaming, and they fell back, and I was going, "What? What"? I didn't know what they were yelling at. And so I was like, "Go get in the closet. You can go to Heaven". It was so simple.
Sid Roth: Hey, I want to go in your closet!
Ginger Ziegler: And they were like, "Ah"! And I was going, "No, what's the matter with you? Go get in the closet. Go get in the closet, and you just start praying, and you go to Heaven. You've got to go to Heaven. You've got to experience it. You don't know God loves you". And they were like, "We know God loves us. We're born again". And I said, "No, you don't. Let me tell you, you do not know". And they were... And I said, "What are y'all yelling about"? And they go, "You're glowing". And I said, "Where? I don't see nothing," and I didn't see a thing. I was looking. "You're glowing". And I said, "What kind of glowing"? And I thought, "Is this like Moses did that time"? But I was so hyper, so in a little while, somebody knocked on the door, and I thought, "Boy, somebody else. I can get them to go get in the closet". And this is a true story, y'all. This is not a...
Sid Roth: I can tell.
Ginger Ziegler: This is not embellished. And so I ran to the front door, and this girl by the name of Lila was there, and I opened the door, and I was going to scream, "Lila, go jump in the closet". And so I opened the door, and she goes, "Ah"! And she fell backwards with nobody catching her all the way down on the sidewalk, and I was screaming, "Get up. Go get in the closet so you can go to Heaven". And she was going, "Ginger, what happened to you? What happened to you? You're glowing". And I said, "I can't see it. All I can do is to tell you hurry up and go get in the closet". And she said, "What's in the closet"? And I said, "I don't know, but that's how you get to Heaven".
Sid Roth: Ginger, for 14 days you walked in such supernatural love and compassion, it was almost like you were living in Heaven, but you were in your Earth suit on Earth. Tell me about the policeman.
Ginger Ziegler: This policeman was directing traffic, so we had to stop, and I just looked up at him. I was like, "I got to tell him. He doesn't know God loves him". I jumped out of the car. John was having a fit. "What are you doing"? "I got to go tell this guy". So I run up to this policeman. I grabbed this policeman like this, and I said, "Sir, God loves you. He loves you". And this policeman is like... He's got the gun and all the... I shouldn't be doing this, and John is going, "Oh, my God. They're going to take her away because she's", I was doing crazy things all the time like that, and this policeman was like, "Ma'am, get back in the car. I'm directing traffic". And I said, "No, sir. I can't get back in the car". I said, "Don't you understand what I'm trying to tell you"? I said, "You do not know that God loves you. I am here to tell you"...
Sid Roth: You told the policeman you...
Ginger Ziegler: I told the policeman that.
Sid Roth: And when he said, "Get back in the car," and you said, "No, I have to tell you God loves you"?
Ginger Ziegler: That went on for 14 days.
Sid Roth: When we return, I want Ginger to tell how to overcome accusations of the devil.
Ginger Ziegler: Amen.
Sid Roth: This is one of the ruling things that the devil is trying to do to people. He's accusing in ways that you think are real and ways that you think you've done wrong, but you are going to be able to overcome it, everyone viewing right now and in the studio audience, every time. Be right back.
Sid Roth: Ginger, you titled your brand-new book "His Blood Speaks". Tell me why you titled it that.
Ginger Ziegler: I said, "Lord, what do You want it called"? And He said, "Call this book 'His Blood Speaks.'" He said, "Because it will help even people that maybe don't go to church or maybe just really, because it will be a drawing for them to find whose blood are they talking about"? Because blood, your blood, my blood, anybody's blood has a voice, and Abel proved that in Genesis because when Caine killed him, he ends up where his blood starts speaking. God starts walking around, and He says, "Hey, I hear blood talking, and it's saying, 'Vengeance.'" And so then we come over to Hebrews 12:24 and 25. The scriptures say, "Do not refuse Him that speaks because He speaks, His Blood speaks better things than that of Abel". Jesus' Blood, He said, "Do not refuse Him that speaks," and the wording, the way it was worded there, and so the Lord said, "I want you to say His Blood speaks, and it will be a drawing, and then add the part where it says, 'It's your victory if you understand this, but it's Satan's defeat' because Satan understands". I guarantee you, he understands it.
Sid Roth: What happens in the invisible world when you say, "I plead the Blood of Jesus," to the demons that are watching?
Ginger Ziegler: Well, it just scares the living daylights out of them because, you know what? They know because in Revelation 12:11, Jesus said, "You want to overcome Satan. Let Me tell you how to do it". Now, that's in Texan. That's not in KJ, but He said, "Let Me tell you how to do it". He said, "You learn how to speak the power of the Blood because of My resurrection". Because of the Blood, His Blood, His Blood from God Almighty was the Father's Blood, Almighty God's Blood, because Romans 6:4 says it was "the glory," and we're waiting for the manifestation of the glory and the presence of God. It was the glory of the Father who raised Christ from the dead. That's the power of the Blood of Jesus Christ because of the Father, and so when His Blood starts speaking, Satan has no access.
Sid Roth: What do you do when you're harassed with thoughts and you're accused? What do you do about that?
Ginger Ziegler: Well, I got it really simple because I was faced with this demon, this big, old, ugly demon thing, 3:15 in the morning standing there, and I was like... I knew the scripture, so I said, "In the name of Jesus, I rebuke," and the dude just looked at me, and I was like, "Whoa, hey, Jesus, this is not working. Come on. What's going on here"? And I was like, "Okay, I didn't get the right scripture. So then I was like a gun, "Here's some more scriptures," and this guy goes... just like that, and I said, "Ahem, Lord, help me. Something is going wrong here". I said, "Do I not have faith? What's the matter? I'm messing up".
Sid Roth: Yeah.
Ginger Ziegler: And this is hard to explain, but I've had so many visitations and stuff with the Lord, I just learned to follow Him, but it started in my feet, and I'm from here... He was closer than you are, and this big, old dude was just standing there, and something started in my feet, and I'm standing there going, "Jesus, talk to my face. Talk to me. Talk to me. Tell me what to do". And all of a sudden I just took a deep breath, and I said, "The Blood," and the thing went like that, and I thought, "Hmm, wonder why the scripture didn't work. Wonder why the Name didn't work". I'm thinking because my mind is fast. You can tell that. And so then I said, "The Blood," the second time. I didn't even say, "The Blood of Jesus". This demon knew who I was talking about. And so this thing walked back, and I got really brave. I squared my shoulders and raised my head. I thought, "Hey, this is working. I'm going to learn more about this". This is in the '70s when this happened, and I said it the third time, and when I did that thing just, I'm telling you, it started backing up, and I got stronger and stronger and stronger, and I just was walking toward that thing, and I could see because I had the discerning of the Spirit, so I could see. I was seeing just like I'm looking at you, and I started saying, "The Blood. The Blood". And so what I've taught people, people that's been in witchcraft, people that's been in all kinds of stuff, and they get saved, and they're harassed by demons, I said, "Hey, if you can't think of anything else, you don't even know a scripture in the Bible, just say, 'The Blood.'"
Sid Roth: I like that. Now, this is very important. Tell Jesus you're sorry for your sins out loud, and ask Him to be your Lord and Savior and come and live inside of you, your own words. I want you to pray the benefits of the Blood over the viewers right now.
Ginger Ziegler: Oh, okay. Thank you. Father God, right now I'm asking You to allow the anointing and the power of the Holy Spirit to go and touch the people that are at home, the people that are watching, the people that are going to watch, the people that are here, and, Father, we are speaking Your life that is in the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Blood of Jesus always speaks, "Mercy, mercy, mercy". Your Blood is speaking, speaking, speaking that we have been redeemed, that we have been set free, that we've been justified, that we've been brought back from that evil Satan, that you paid the price in full for us, and I'm telling you, the Blood of Jesus Christ, the power is bringing life to us right now, healing. Healing is coming. We have healing. We have what we need, relationships restored. Your Blood speaks life, life, life. We're being cleansed on the inside. Your Blood is washing, washing, washing, washing away bad memories, washing away hurts and pains. Your Blood is life. You have come to give us life and give us more life and to give us life more abundantly, and You have just brought us back, Lord. Thank You, Jesus. You're restoring us. Your Blood says we've been restored, and we've been redeemed from the curse of the law. Now we have this blood covenant. This blood covenant is bringing blessing from our Heavenly Father right on us right now. It's just amazing. Lord, we receive, we receive Your Blood now. We speak the Blood. We speak the Blood. We speak Your Blood. Father, we are receiving the riches of Your grace because of the power of Your Blood. Your Blood is speaking this peace on us right now. In this chaotic mess we're in right now, Father, we just say, "The blood is saying, 'Peace, peace.'" Winds of adversity, be still because peace is coming, and we have an everlasting covenant. It doesn't just last for a year. It lasts forever, not just in this lifetime, but in our eternal lifetime with You, and You know, Father, it says we're forgiven, forgiven, just like we never sinned. Your Blood can make us that clean. Your Blood makes us that clean. We just thank You, Father God. We just honor You, all of Your Blood, every drop that You gave us of this Blood. Oh, Lord, we speak Your life, the life, life all over the whole world. People can hear. Yes. My Blood. My Blood. My Blood is speaking life. Where there was death, now there is life. Life is coming. Resurrection is coming to dreams. Restoration is coming to children and to marriages, to ministries, to broken hearts. We worship You, Father. We honor You. Thank You Lord, for giving us the ability to say, "The Blood. The Blood. The Blood of Jesus". Amen.
Sid Roth: And I seal these prayers with one word. No, maybe two: the Blood!