Sid Roth - Angels Take Him on an Unexpected Chariot Ride
Sid Roth: Hello! Sid Roth here! And let me tell you it's very difficult to do this particular show with Kathie Walters because not only does she laugh in the spirit, the Spirit of God it gives her the spirit of laughter but it's kind of contagious! But you know what? Even medical science has found out that laughter, if someone has cancer laughter will release certain things in the body and they tell people with cancer to just watch comedies so that they'll laugh. How much more if you laugh by the Holy Spirit! But you think that's something. I mean okay, I'm gonna really stretch you now! For over 3 weeks every day, just like when someone for 3 weeks may go to work every day, Kathie Walters goes to heaven every day! Kathie, uhh, at one time you were a nice normal refined, dignified, went to Westminster chapel, had a top expositor preaching the gospel and you were normal! But then...
Kathie Walters: Very British!
Sid Roth: Very British! And tell, what is that glitter all over your face!
Kathie Walters: It just comes when I get under the anointing. I get like honey.
Sid Roth: That's, that's not perfume?
Kathie Walters: Nope. Because it's not on this hand.
Sid Roth: It smells, I gotta tell you it does smell like honey! What does that honey mean?
Kathie Walters: Well the angel came to my house one time and he gave me a spoonful of honey. And for 3 and a half hours I was lifted up in the spirit realm. I saw the call of God come back to Whalsay Island, Scotland and when that stopped, when that lifted off me the Lord said to me I'm gonna start to drop the honey on the body. So I said honey? You know? And he said well, the angel came back and said have you never read about Jonathan. When Jonathan ate the honey his eyes were enlightened. So the honey represents a spirit of revelation!
Sid Roth: You know there's so many things I wanna talk to you about! But let's start out with you're a nice normal person engaged to a nice normal man and all of a sudden you find yourself leaving the country, going to Australia and you get involved with some mafia-type people.
Kathie Walters: Yes.
Sid Roth: But, what, what in the world changed you 360 degrees from being a party girl with the mafia-type people? What changed you?
Kathie Walters: Well when I was in my 'heavy,' in England they say 'heavy jelly'. That means deep doctrine, fundamentalists, you know we had all this head knowledge.
Sid Roth: Heavy jelly! Okay.
Kathie Walters: Yes. 'heavy'. That's what we call it. 'Heavy jelly'! So I had this theology, you know wonderful theology in one sense but it was all up here so I ran away. I went away to Australia and I backslid really really bad. Got engaged to someone in the mafia cause I left, I broke off the engagement with David. And I was just really basically, I was just having a good time! I mean not everyone in the world is in the gutter or on drugs, you know. I was having a good time. I was enjoying myself. I was having in a worldly sense but after 2 years one day the anointing fell on me. And cause I had never heard of the anointing. I didn't know what the anointing was.
Sid Roth: So the presence of God, tangible.
Kathie Walters: The presence of God fell on me, yeah, and like all I could hear was, I don't know if you know that old English hymn I could hear these angels singing 'a love that will not let me go'.
Sid Roth: Well I'll tell you what excites me much more than the song is you said you heard the angels singing.
Kathie Walters: Yeah, I heard angels singing.
Sid Roth: So the presence of God comes on you. Angels are singing. So what's going on with your mafia boyfriend?
Kathie Walters: Well what happened was the people I was with, I just started weeping and crying. I didn't know...
Sid Roth: Did they want to lock you up or what?
Kathie Walters: No. They put me in a cab. Sent me home. I spent the rest of the day trying to get right with God best as I knew how. And I had a vision of Jesus on a white horse but I didn't believe in visions!
Sid Roth: But you had one.
Kathie Walters: But I had cause I was always taught that wasn't for today! That was you know for the early church. But I had this vision and because the anointing on me was so strong actually everyone I spoke to got saved! And in one sense, in one sense...
Sid Roth: What did your mafia friends think about that?
Kathie Walters: Well let me, I'll tell you what happened. Everyone I spoke to got saved. And then I thought well what am I gonna do now because you know you don't just say I don't think I'll do this anymore. And I realized I was in a fix because what am I gonna say? But I couldn't keep being engaged to this guy, you know. So I said Lord help me! Cause sometimes you have to say that, don't you?
Sid Roth: I know!
Kathie Walters: And so anyway but the next day the guy ran into my apartment. He said I'll deal with you later! Because he knew I was talking to all kinds of different people and he went to the kitchen, got a gun out of the drawer and then he rushed past. I thought he was gonna kill me but he rushed past me. He ran out of the apartment and I never ever saw him again! So I thought well I better get going while the goings good and I went back to London and married David.
Sid Roth: And then you went back to your normal nice...
Kathie Walters: No, no, no, no, no!
Sid Roth: No?
Kathie Walters: No, no, no.
Sid Roth: What happened?
Kathie Walters: Well because I had that vision and I felt that anointing I knew obviously there's something else so we were with a real worldly group of people, actors, movie directors, chorus girls, people like that. So we decided to have a prayer meeting to pray for something. Most people have done that sometime. You're not quite sure what it is but something, there's gotta be something. So we started to pray for something and I don't know, I guess I can say this on tv, but this is where we were at. We were very, like I said a very worldly bunch of people and we would arrange to start this prayer meeting in time to stop the prayer meeting in time to have a glass of whiskey and a cigarette and watch the horror movie.
Sid Roth: So you were a, you were a normal Christian back then. Okay.
Kathie Walters: Yeah, but I've had some experiences so I knew there's something more. So God showed up anyway. God just showed up and zapped us. We all got filled with the Holy Ghost.
Sid Roth: Listen! Kathy was normal by normal standards but she was abnormal by 'the truth book' or the Bible standards. She was abnormal. She walked into what is normal relationship with God that will astound you! We'll be right back after this word! Don't go away!
Sid Roth: Hello! Sid Roth here today with Kathie Walters. And let me tell you something, uh, this is a very interesting show! So Kathie Walters, she, she starts having manifestations of the Holy Spirit. She's involved with the mafia and she's engaged to a mafia leader. And he doesn't know what to do with her. He's gonna get rid of her. He pulls a gun but then he runs out. He said I'll be right back. He never comes back. Kathie isn't dumb. She heads back to England from Australia. Gets married to David to live normally, happily you know ever after. But there's a problem. She has tasted some of the reality of the spirit world. And once you taste the reality after tasting boring religion...
Kathie Walters: Oh, amen!
Sid Roth: ...Religion doesn't satisfy. And she bumped into something that I have never seen in my lifetime. I have seen what are called revivals and they've been good. But Kathie, what you've told me about, it's way beyond what I've experienced. Paint me a picture of what was going on.
Kathie Walters: Well what happened was when God came and showed up and he zapped us and we came into incredible revival, this was in the south of London. Now we didn't know anything and probably that helped! We knew nothing! Somebody taught us a few songs but the power of God fell on everybody and I think the way this revival broke out is because it really was everybody. It wasn't some people on a platform. It was literally everybody. And actually we...
Sid Roth: That's very different you know.
Kathie Walters: Yes it is.
Sid Roth: We have for lack of better words a one-man show but God already has a one-man show. His name is Yeshua, the Messiah! Okay. So everybody. What do you mean by everybody?
Kathie Walters: Well what happened in the beginning was people just were coming from everywhere and we didn't know who they were. They just heard something was happening so people were coming, coming, coming. And our house and other houses were like full, full of people. People were falling out the window even because they were so squished! But we just started to worship and sing and...
Sid Roth: You don't have to advertise when God really shows up. You don't need a sign revival meeting that has nothing to do with revival. But go ahead.
Kathie Walters: Anyway the glory of God fell on everybody because God used everybody! We didn't know what was gonna happen. We didn't know who he was gonna use. People were just open. We actually laughed for 3 years! Because God washed...
Sid Roth: You must be a very healthy person!
Kathie Walters: Yeah. Well he washed all that religious stuff. You know he washed it away. And we eventually had to move but we had to tell people we had to move into the town hall because there was just so many people. And we had to tell people when they called you know to say where's the meeting we'd have to tell them look, when you come to the meeting there'll be people laying in the street outside. Because they never made it into the meeting. And we'd say don't take any notice. Just step over them. Come on in. Well the glory of God, I sat in meeting, sat in meetings sometimes like this because the light was so bright and the glory of God was on every person! It didn't matter where you sat because the person next to you would tell you your name! So there wasn't a back. There wasn't a front. There wasn't a back.
Sid Roth: In other words, everyone, the way it was supposed to be everyone knew each other.
Kathie Walters: No. They just knew by the spirit.
Sid Roth: You're telling me that you knew someone's name by the spirit?
Kathie Walters: Yeah. When people, it didn't matter who you sat next to. With the people that had been there for a while in that revival. The children, the old people. There were bankers, there were the trash men. The kids. And it didn't matter who you sat next to. When you sat down someone would say oh hi. Your name's John, right? And it was just an incredible level of the anointing. Let me give you a little example, okay? Because we never knew who God was gonna use or what he was gonna do. And one Sunday morning there was a little boy. His name was Steven. He's 6 years old. And he stood up in the meeting and he put his Bible on the floor and he stood on it cause he read something about standing on the word. And he put a handkerchief on his head and I'm not quite sure what that was all about. But he sang...
Sid Roth: Maybe he was Jewish! But go ahead.
Kathie Walters: He sang 'i will bless the Lord at all times. His praise shall continually be in my mouth'. And this wind swept into the building, knocked 300 people off their seats! See...
Sid Roth: Really? That's normal?
Kathie Walters: That was normal. We never knew.
Sid Roth: Now listen! That is normal! So if that is normal what do you have? Is it true that you were at a church speaking and a pastor saw, had an angelic visitation and he went in a chariot all over?
Kathie Walters: Yeah. When I was in New Zealand a little while ago. Cause I preached. See the realm of the spirit, right? The supernatural realm, the angels, heavenly visitations, the chariots of God they've been coming in all the meetings. They're supposed to be a normal part of our life! That's normal! For everybody!
Sid Roth: You know that's, that's the operative word!
Kathie Walters: Yeah, normal.
Sid Roth: For everybody! For everybody!
Kathie Walters: Everybody. So I preached that, you see, in this conference in New Zealand. I was telling everybody look the chariots are here because I could see the chariots wheels and you can receive. You don't have to qualify. You don't have to earn anything. That's your inheritance! When people started to believe that, all this, everything started breaking out! With the pastor, I started to pray for people and I said to one of the elders where's the pastor cause I need him to help me? Why isn't he helping me there's all these people? So they went to look for him and they said they came back and said well he's under the piano.
Sid Roth: What's he doin' under the piano?
Kathie Walters: Anyway later when he got up he went on 5 chariot rides. These angels came and took him to Israel and then they said do you want to go again and he said well I can't stay here so they took him back. Then they took him to India, then they took him to fiji, then they took him to...
Sid Roth: You know I want you to explain this, it's actually a spirit that makes you think you don't qualify.
Kathie Walters: That's right.
Sid Roth: But the Messiah, he's already paid the price! You qualify. I want you to be normal! Jump in! It's good water! We'll be right back!
Sid Roth: Hello! Sid Roth here with Kathie Walters and we're having fun. And that's what it's supposed to be! When you have intimacy with God you're supposed to have fun! But some of the things we're talking about, chariot rides to heaven, I mean this, this kind of stretches you! And you say well if all that is possible maybe for Kathie, maybe for some of the people I see on television, but not for little ol' me. What would you say to them, Kathie?
Kathie Walters: Well I would say when Yeshua died on the cross he purchased your inheritance in the spirit realm that he had. In other words he didn't die and say you know one day you're gonna be with me in eternity and it's gonna be awesome. In the meantime do the best you can. He made available the whole spirit realm, which is the supernatural realm, the chariots, the angels that's supposed to be a normal part of our life cause that's our inheritance. And I think one of the biggest religious spirits in America, and if you talk about salvation people know they're saved by faith. All right?
Sid Roth: Right.
Kathie Walters: But when you talk about the realm of the spirit, the supernatural, the angels, heavenly visitations, the chariots of God and all that good stuff people feel that's for him and her cause they're more spiritual than me.
Sid Roth: They know themselves.
Kathie Walters: So they feel like they're not qualified. So I call this thing like a 'qualifying spirit'. You do not have to qualify. There is nothing you can earn for your inheritance. Jesus qualified you 100% so how can you un-qualify from something you never qualified for? See it's very subtle. But while it's there, while people have that in the back of their mind they will never receive all of their inheritance, will they, when you think about it?
Sid Roth: Speaking of a little bit about inheritance, you were telling me about the young people that go out on the streets and what happens when they minister.
Kathie Walters: Well in the revival we were in the kids would stand outside the pub. The worst pub in our area where all the hell's angels were and the drug pushers and everything and they would just stand outside and as people went past they just started giving out words of knowledge and praying. When I was there I saw major drug dealers in our town hit the ground and repent when the 7 and 8 year olds were praying for them! And they got saved. A lot of those drug dealers became elders in our church! Not the next week, but you know.
Sid Roth: Now this is normal! Kathie recently had a vision from God about what is about ready to happen or happening, no it's happening on planet earth about the 'new angels'. Explain that.
Kathie Walters: Well when I was in New Zealand in November, it was the same meeting that the pastor went on all the great rides and actually a lot of people did, but I suddenly looked up and I saw in the heavens it was like this portal opened and I saw thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of angels like pouring into New Zealand. But I found out afterwards the same thing happened in Australia, in England, in America, in South Africa.
Sid Roth: What are these angels here for?
Kathie Walters: The angels are here to help bring in this move of the spirit that's coming. And part of the process of that is God is pouring out an anointing that's really getting rid of a lot of these religious spirits, a lot of the religious mindsets because those are the things that are preventing us receiving.
Sid Roth: Kathie, the presence of God is so strong right now! Would you pray for the people to be delivered of all religious qualifying spirits and then pray for the same presence of God that is on you to be on them?
Kathie Walters: Okay. Ready. Thank you, Lord. Father, in the name of Jesus I take authority especially over that religious mindset, that qualifying spirit that makes people feel they have to qualify to receive all of their inheritance and I bind the power of it in the back of their mind. I bind its power right now in Jesus' name and I rebuke it and I say no, you're a liar and you're a thief and a robber and I command you to leave the mind. I come against religious words that's got into people's ears that's sowed seeds at the back of their mind that's made them feel that way that they have to qualify. And father, I rebuke it! You have to give it up, though. And Lord I just pray for your anointing to begin to flood into people's living rooms right now. Into their car. Into their wherever they're watching this program. And father I pray the anointing would just come in just like an electricity, like power, like the love of God and the joy of the Lord. And father I pray that the joy of the Lord will begin to hit people all over that place cause people get healed then. People get healed that way when the joy of the Lord comes. So father we believe in you. And I thank you and father I just pray there would just be a great receiving of the liberty, the liberty of God!
Sid Roth: You know one of my favorite words, Kathie, is freedom.
Kathie Walters: Yup, liberty. My ears are burning.
Sid Roth: Now what does that mean?
Kathie Walters: Well cause I think people are hearing!
Sid Roth: I believe that there is a breakthrough that is coming right now. You told me when we were having dinner yesterday that there was an angel just for television assigned to me.
Kathie Walters: Yup!
Sid Roth: And then you also talked about an angel over Israel. How did you know this?
Kathie Walters: Well when I was talking to you on the telephone I saw an angel, a media angel. See different angels are assigned to your ministry, or different people's ministry, and these angels have different purposes. So there's an angel that comes actually to help you with finances so that you can have the finances to do what God tells you to do. And there's an angel that also helps to see to the media part of your ministry, which is mostly media, and so every ministry has angels that are assigned to that ministry. There's angels that are assigned to minster to you. There's angels that are assigned to minister with you. And they're a part of the ministry. They're assigned to your ministry and they will always be there.
Sid Roth: Does everyone have an angel?
Kathie Walters: Everyone has angels that minister to them but as they move out in ministry and in the anointing God releases angels and as the ministry grows he releases more angels.
Sid Roth: Now when I was talking to you on the phone when we were doing a radio interview there was an angel that literally you said was sitting on you. Is that true?
Kathie Walters: Yeah. I couldn't get up! Yeah. But things like that happen. Every sign and wonder is for a purpose. It's cause God is saying something, God doesn't do things to entertain us. He speaks. He speaks through the word. He speaks through signs and wonders. So when there's signs and wonders you have to ask God what he's saying. So if an angel sits on you, like so many people they've been out in the spirit laying on the floor and they can't get up, and often that's an angel sitting there because they'll stay there till they hear what God wants them to hear.
Sid Roth: Hmm! You know what? This is such a delightful time and the reason it's so delightful is there's freedom. Do you have freedom? Do you when you read the, read the scriptures are you normal according to scriptures or have you had so much tradition that you can even read the scriptures and think you're okay? Well there's more! That's what Kathie was saying. She knew that there was more and she bumped into that revival. Who do you think these angels that have just come down on planet earth are going to be gravitating towards? People that are hungry or people that are saying, oh, well I guess it's time to go to bed? I don't think I wanna pray. I don't think I want to have intimacy with God. I don't think I wanna hear God. C'mon now. We're at the wrap-up of all things! Choose this day who you will serve! If you're not sure just say: 'God, is Jesus the Messiah'? A simple prayer like that and he'll reveal himself! Things are happening quickly. Very quickly! But don't miss! You know there's more. You're watching by divine appointment. This is your moment! Take it! Go for the gold!