Sid Roth - Decode God's Secret Messages
Sid Roth: My guest needs no introduction to the supernatural because when he was four years of age he started knowing things that no one had ever told him. For instance, tell me what happened at five.
John Paul Jackson: Sid, when I was five years of age I had a dream about a next door neighbor. When I woke up from this dream, as a child I was crying and very distraught over what I had dreamed. My mother and father came in to see what was wrong with me. They began to comfort me and as they were comforting me they looked outside and there was my friend that I had seen in the dream, playing. And I remember even to this day how confused I was over seeing my friend playing in the front yard, and yet I had just seen something terrible happen to him in his mother, in this dream that I had. I had seen them involved in an automobile accident where my friend and his mother actually lost their lives.
Sid Roth: So you just figured it was nothing in the dream.
John Paul Jackson: Right. That's what my mom and dad convinced me, it was just a bad dream. See, your friend is out in the front yard playing. It was just a few days later that happened.
Sid Roth: Really?
John Paul Jackson: Yes.
Sid Roth: So what did your parents think?
John Paul Jackson: They didn't, at first they didn't make the association of it, but then because they had kind of forgotten about it, they treated dreams as if it was an imagination, something that everybody has. But after they realized that it had come true and they said, 'didn't John Paul have a dream about this,' or something along those lines, then they began to query me. I grew up, they always thought I had a vivid imagination. That's what they called it. You have such a vivid imagination.
Sid Roth: But when they saw, I mean, something like that, that would cause the hair to stand up on end for everyone.
John Paul Jackson: It did. But they thought it was, at that particular moment, they thought it just one of those occurrences.
Sid Roth: Let me just take you back. Even your birth was very unusual.
John Paul Jackson: Yes it was.
Sid Roth: Tell me about it.
John Paul Jackson: Well my birth, my mother had lost a baby in a miscarriage and she was grieving over the loss of that child. She had an encounter with angel who said, 'do not grieve over this child any longer. You're going to have another'.
Sid Roth: Wait a minute. She had an encounter with angel.
John Paul Jackson: Yes, she did.
Sid Roth: My goodness. And so what did the angel say?
John Paul Jackson: He said, 'do not grieve over the loss of this child. You're going to become pregnant again. You will have another child. It will be a son and you are to call his name John Paul'.
Sid Roth: But the pregnancy was a long one.
John Paul Jackson: It was a long one. Well the angel went to say that this child will have an 11th hour ministry and even your pregnancy will be a sign of that 11th hour ministry. So she became pregnant with me and the day that I was due, nine months later, 40 weeks of gestation period, she went to the hospital in labor, and when she got to the hospital everything was going along fine, and then the labor process stopped. But when the labor process stopped they sent her home thinking, well it's just false labor pains. We'll see her within 24 to 48 hours. Instead, two months went by and two months to the day that I was to be born, 11 months total, then she went back into the hospital and gave birth to me.
Sid Roth: Have you ever talked to a doctor to find out how unusual it is for it to last 11 months before you're born?
John Paul Jackson: Yes. It's very, very rare. It's like less than two-tenths of one percent of the children that would even survive that type of birthing process. And in that particular day they didn't have a means of artificially inducing labor. So my mother would drink bottles of castor oil. We had a two-story house, and she would sit on the top of the stairs and bounce down the stairs after drinking bottles of castor oil trying to induce labor, because she had heard it would through the uterus into contractions.
Sid Roth: It's a wonder she survived or you survived. But anyway, over the years you began to see that these were messages from God that were coming to pass.
John Paul Jackson: Yes.
Sid Roth: But you decided you wanted, you didn't like the life, the 'religious life'. You wanted to be a millionaire. You had been discipled by television like I was, like most people were and you could only be happy if you're a millionaire. But at age 30, your world turns upside down. You had a visitor.
John Paul Jackson: I did. I had a visitor. My marriage was, had a lot of difficulty in it. We had a small business, a daycare center that we owned. I was involved in a fortune 500 company and was up, going up in that fortune 500 company but everything seemed to be falling apart. My 'golden voice', you know that golden voice status seemed to be disappearing and I thought, okay, if everything is going to disappear then I am going to get close to the living God. I'm going to find him. I'm going to find out what he's all about and I'm going to see if what happened to me when I was a child is real. And so I began seeking him. In November 1980, when I was just had turned 30 years of age a few months before I had an encounter where I was laying in bed. It was dark. My wife had gone off to open up the daycare center. I had laryngitis. I couldn't speak, so I was staying home from work to try to recover. In the dark of the morning a light came into my room and when this light came into my room it started out small, it woke me up and then it grew very quickly. It encompassed the entire room. Everything in the room disappeared, Sid. The dresser drawers disappeared, the chest of drawers disappeared, the furniture disappeared in the brightness of this light. Everything disappeared. I felt the holy presence, something holy like I had never felt, holiness. The reality of what endlessness must be like and I knew it was the presence of God. I rolled out of bed onto the floor because the bed was too high in the presence of this holy presence. If could have gotten into the carpet I would have. If I had gotten under the foundation of the house I would have because whatever it was I was too high in the presence of this holiness. And so then this light identified himself as the Lord. He identified himself as my Creator. He identified himself as the one who had caused my birth to take place, caused my mother conceive, told her about what was going to happen. He identified himself and all this showed me my entire life, showed me why I had lived and not died, actually why I died and he brought me back from these two death encounters, why things that had happened to me had happened and what it was meant to do. The enemy meant to destroy me, but he meant it to create a sensitivity in me, an awareness of spiritual issues that he wanted me to tell the church about.
Sid Roth: Now did he show you what would happen, some things in the future?
John Paul Jackson: Yes he did. He showed me some things that were going to take place and those things that actually took place.
Sid Roth: What does this 11th hour mystery mean?
John Paul Jackson: To me, it is akin to what Joel said in the Bible. Joel said that in the last days, and I think that's likely the 11th hour. Midnight is typically thought of being the conclusion of things. And so the 11th hour would be in the wind down of things, the essential wind down.
Sid Roth: Listen, he knows what's going to happen in the future in America, in the world. We'll be right back after this.
Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth here with John Paul Jackson. At age 30, he has a visitation from Jesus. Jesus walks in and says, this is amazing to me, John Paul. He says to you, 'you will be alive in the final hour'. What do you believe that means?
John Paul Jackson: I believe it means there is countdown that God has, that only the father knowns, and in the process of that countdown there is to be men and women who will herald and make various signs, declare signs, declare wonders, make the church aware of various things that are going on. This is the Lord. This is why it's the Lord and declare things that are going to happen before they happen. If you take a look at the prophecy Joel it would be to declare signs in the heavens, signs on earth, blood, fire, vapor, smoke, various kinds of signs and wonders of prophetic people, those who know the end before it happens, see things that are not as though they were and declare them, and they come to pass.
Sid Roth: You know what I find fascinating, I had dinner with John Paul Jackson and few other friends of mine and there was a prophet present from a foreign country that knew nothing about John Paul Jackson. And I was about ready to give a little introduction to the group that John Paul Jackson is a prophet and he really has a gift to understand dreams and to help other people understand supernaturally their dreams. But my wife said, 'no, no, let's order first before you tell everyone'. I said, 'okay, joy'. And so we order first and then this person to my right stood up and you tell me, I heard him say that you were a prophet.
John Paul Jackson: Yes.
Sid Roth: I heard him say you specialize in dreams and then a number of other things, but it must be so strong. I mean, were you kind of taken aback that this stranger read your mail?
John Paul Jackson: I loved it. I called my wife and she said, 'now you know how other people feel when you come into the room and tell them'. Because it was such a wonderful thing to have happen. What happened, Sid, is this. God who is eternal sees outside of time and he sees what is going to happen to you and he will send various men and women to you or angels to you, or he will speak to you. He will appear to. He makes himself known to you to help you achieve the purpose for which he put you here on earth. Every one of us have a purpose that God put us here on earth, things that we are to accomplish. Acts, chapter 2, and the Bible tells us a very interesting thing, a strange thing that is written. It says this, that from one blood God put people on the face of the earth and determine the exact time they should be born, determine the exact place they should live. He has a purpose for every single one of us. Many people who are watching us today don't know that they have a purpose. They feel like I must have blown it, something must have happened. My family wouldn't have anything good happen to it. And the reality is the Lord God knew that they would be here and he put them here for a purpose yet to be fulfilled, and they've got something wonderful that they can do and the Lord wants to talk to them. God wants to make himself known to them.
Sid Roth: But there are people that are watching us right now and they say, okay, we watch it's supernatural. We see Sid. We see sid's guests. We see that they really hear from God. We believe they are sincere. But no angel has ever come to me. What would you say to them?
John Paul Jackson: I would say that, you know what, many people have had angelic experiences in dreams, but they don't know it because angels can come to you in two ways in a dream. They can come to you cloaked, the Bible talks about them being veiled, and they come to you in the full glory of heaven. And when that happens, you fall down at the feet as a dead man in the full glory of heaven, but when they come veiled you can ask them to dinner. Like Abraham fed the angel of the Lord and two other angels with this theophany, fed them and asked them what the future was going to hold, what was going to happen, and they told him about Sodom and Gomorrah. So he didn't fall at the feet as a dead man, he entertained them. And we are told in scripture that we can actually entertain angels without even knowing we're entertaining them. They can be there with us. We can talk to them. We can have encounters with them, but that's when they come in a veiled format.
Sid Roth: How did you realize that not only do you understand the supernatural language of dreams for yourself, but you can help others? How did you come to this understanding?
John Paul Jackson: I had some remarkable encounters that the Lord just said, I'm going to help you. I think it's one of those things where it takes weaklings to confound the wise.
Sid Roth: When it comes to dreams I need some help.
John Paul Jackson: What the Lord did, he began to take me through dreams in scripture. He would even give me dreams to explain scriptural dreams, the symbolism in the scripture the, what I call a divine logic, a logic that is higher than human logic, but when you get it, it makes so much sense.
Sid Roth: Why does he want people to understand their dreams? Everyone dreams.
John Paul Jackson: Yes.
Sid Roth: Why does he want us to understand them?
John Paul Jackson: Because it's a major way of him communicating to us. Dreams, we spend one-third of our life asleep. We spend one-third of our life dreaming. By the time I'm 60, I'm 56 years right now, by the time I'm 60, I will have spent 20 years. In those 20 years, how much can God speak in that time. Well what he does, he uses dreams to bypass our rational mind. And so he tells us things in symbolic form that we now interpret and with that interpretation we come to a new understanding of what God wants to do. The great thing about it is he gives us the symbolism. He helps us understand the symbols. Now he may bring somebody along to help us, but he may give the interpretation and the dream as we're having it. He may unfold the interpretation right then and there.
Sid Roth: But you have a supernatural gift to do this. This isn't a natural thing.
John Paul Jackson: Yes. I think that's why the Lord wanted me to become the forerunner, to teach people things that should be common to them because the church has discounted, because we've taken on a great mindset, an aristotelian mindset, a sort of Hebraic mindset, we think if it's not logical and it's not tangible then it's irrelevant to our lives. So our western culture has diminished the value of dreams and God wants to reestablish his communication process.
Sid Roth: I believe God wants to speak to you through your dreams, but I am so fascinated by the things that John Paul Jackson knew that came to pass, he knew them before he came to pass and the things that God has shown him for the future. We'll be right back after this word. But you actually saw people become president of the United States before it happened.
John Paul Jackson: Yes.
Sid Roth: Be right back.
Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth here with John Paul Jackson and I am so excited to be with you at this moment and I'm excited to be with you at this moment. I believe that this is, it's a Hebrew word, it's bashert. It's destiny. It's meant to be. Let's whet their appetite a little bit. Tell me a few things that God showed you before the fact. Let's go into the presidential elections. Tell me something he told you about a president before it happened.
John Paul Jackson: He told me that Ronald Reagan would become president. And in fact, Ronald Reagan came to me in a dream and visited me, and told me that he would become president.
Sid Roth: My goodness. Tell me something else, maybe with our satellite rocket system.
John Paul Jackson: Well he talked about the things that were going to be happening as far as small nuclear warheads being able to be put onto a very small missile. It was previously thought that it had to be the size an automobile. A nuclear warhead had to be the size of an automobile, but he told me that the day would come when they would put nuclear warheads on small rockets that would be able to go and it worked from 500 to a thousand miles. It would be a small rocket, but it would carry a nuclear warhead.
Sid Roth: How long ago did he tell you that?
John Paul Jackson: That was 1980. 1980, he began to tell me that.
Sid Roth: My goodness, you can get in trouble if you talk about things like this before it's released to the general public.
John Paul Jackson: I did. I did some programs like this on television and I had people writing in saying, this is a false prophet because I have an uncle who's in a nuclear program and he tells me it's the size of an automobile, and so on. Yes, I had a lot of things that happened like that that people said I was a false prophet, constantly. But now we know that it has come to pass. It's true.
Sid Roth: If you could get the ear of president bush, what would you tell him based on what you know?
John Paul Jackson: I would tell him to, I would ask him to reconsider the ideas of giving land away in Israel. I would ask him to reconsider how he is going about the Middle East process and has gone about it, that there is a way to gain what he wants to have happen without all the things that we're going through right now.
Sid Roth: Have you got any insight at all as to what's happening in the land of Israel at this moment and what's going to happen in the near future?
John Paul Jackson: Things are going to get worse in Israel and there's going to be, the things that are happening right now were basically used to defuse the attention from Iran and what's going on with this nuclear program there. At the same time, Israel suddenly recognized that this armament that was being built up by the Hezbollah was being put there as an offensive weapon, not as a defensive weapon. That Hezbollah was not trying to make a name for itself above al-qaida and above Hamas. And so there was some jealousy and tension between those three Islamic groups, and that jealousy is going to continue. And in fact, it now is continuing because there's now infighting amongst various groups, even Hamas and the new groups trying to come up. I would also say that if Israel, in this next prime minister, there's another prime minister coming quickly.
Sid Roth: Do you know who this prime minister is?
John Paul Jackson: I'm not supposed to tell you.
Sid Roth: I know who it is.
John Paul Jackson: I'm not trying to be evasive. Somebody is probably supposed to release that. I cannot release that. Again, I'm not trying to be evasive. I'm just trying to be obedient. But with the next prime minister there is an opportunity for Israel to really gain some ground and I believe that if the people of America will pray and seek God that he will send divine answers and divine solutions to the enigmas that currently seem to be facing, daunting enigmas that seem to be facing Israel right now.
Sid Roth: Tell me about a dream that you had that came to pass, what it meant and what occurred.
John Paul Jackson: Well one that comes to my mind immediately that was I left the secular world, the corporate world and went into more of a religious setting, what happened was that I had a dream where I was kicked out of an airplane and my boss was kicked out of an airplane. And when I was kicked out of the airplane my parachute wouldn't open. And I tried to open it, and I pulled the ripcord off and then pulled the second ripcord off, the emergency chute, pulled them off. And only as you can do in a dream, I left my body, went down to check out where I was going to land. Found out I was going to land on the land. And I knew that I could bend this time-space continuum. I know things in dreams are strange. It's why they're metaphorical. You can bend this time-space continuum. If you run fast enough you can land in the water and not on the land. So my spirit, so to speak, ran out to the water. My body came down and I hit the water. And then when I came up out of the water after I thought I was going to drown because I went so deep I heard a voice and the voice spoke to me and said, 'when you come up I will have equipped you to minister to various people and various people groups, and I will open up doors for you, but you're going to lose your job and you're going to try to do two different things. Remember, two different chutes. One was a regular chute, one was the emergency chute. You're going to try to do two different things, but neither one of those are going to work. You're going to realize that you had to fall into the water. I am that water. I am the fountain of living water, metaphorically speaking, and I will give you life. And when you come up out of this you will be equipped to minister to people who need to know more about me'. And that happened three days later. Three days later, my boss made a play to become the vice president of the company. He lost that play. He was removed and 24 hours later I was removed because I was the man right underneath him in charge of everything.
Sid Roth: You know, John Paul Jackson, my staff went through your cd on dreams where you teach people on this and all of a sudden they started having dreams that were very, very significant. Is this an unusual report or does this happen often?
John Paul Jackson: No. There is an anointing that happens. Saul, when he met the prophets, he began to prophecy. There is something that happens with the Lord who he gives gifts to people. When you come in contact with people who have those gifts then you end up doing the very things that those people do. So if you have a dream gift then you end up dreaming. If you have a prophetic, if you end up having prophetic things, revelation that you didn't know you were going to have, understanding about things you didn't know.
Sid Roth: You just gave me an idea. Would you pray for an impartation of the anointing that's on you to be on the people to understand dreams.
John Paul Jackson: I would love to.
Sid Roth: Do that now.
John Paul Jackson: I would love to. Abba Jehovah, in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach ben eli, I ask you to give understanding and insight, and revelation to people who don't yet have it or to those who don't remember it, or to those that you want to move into greater understanding of the way you speak, the eternality, how you are eternal, always have been, always will be and are at this moment. I ask you, father, to show them what they need to do in order to walk into the purpose for which they were created. I ask you to open their minds because your word says in job that you speak in many ways and man does not perceive it. In a dream, in a vision of the night while men slumber upon their beds, you open the minds of men and seal their instructions. Father, I ask you to open the minds of the people that are listening right now and seal their instructions so that they can walk into a great knowledge of you and have impact upon the people that you desire them to touch. For your great name's sake I ask it. Amen.
Sid Roth: I believe there was a transfer of a very special presence of God for you to have dreams, remember dreams and understand dreams, and then it's up to you be obedient. By the way, would you be shocked if the next prime minister is Netanyahu in Israel?
John Paul Jackson: Probably not.
Sid Roth: Oh I think I've got something. Anyway, Jeremiah 31:31, you want a word from God, that's from God. That's for you. 'behold the days come in which I shall make a new covenant, a blood covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not according to the covenant I made with their forefathers,' which they violated. But this new covenant will do two things: one, God says, I will remember your sins no more. You will be clean and there will be nothing separating you from God, and two, you will know God. Isn't that what you want? There's no other name given unto man in which we must have this new covenant, but the name Yeshua, Jesus. Jesus is the way to God, the only way.