Sid Roth - What I Saw in Jesus' Eyes Left Me Undone!
Sid Roth: Welcome to my world where it's naturally supernatural. My name is Sid Roth and I'm with Charles Ndifon from Nigeria. Now I had the opportunity of meeting Charles in person before this television show and as a result of the time we spent together I am telling you there will be more manifestations of miracles than have ever happened in the history of this telecast, and that's saying a lot. One of the things, Charles, that I noticed is that there is a presence of a healing anointing like a river that is all around you. It's almost as if you do not have to put your hand on someone for them to be healed. By just being in your presence, is this what occurs?
Charles Ndifon: We found it's quite amazing. In a lot of the meetings we had around different parts of the world that seemed to be the case. We were in Iceland. I just walked into the auditorium and people started getting healed. It's the presence of Jesus. Wherever we go we discover his presence changes the lives of people.
Sid Roth: Okay. Something happened to you in 1987, which you guys from Nigeria, you have such wonderful childlike faith and that's actually, that's one of the requirements. The Messiah said we must be like little children.
Charles Ndifon: Like a child, yes.
Sid Roth: To even enter the kingdom of heaven. But something happened to you very highly unusual in 1987. Tell me about that.
Charles Ndifon: Yes. What actually happened was I was very hungry. I was studying mechanical engineering as a student. I was very curious. I wanted the real thing. I didn't want anything that's not real and what I said was I read the scripture that says, 'If anyone loves me my father and I will come and manifest ourself to him'. And when I read this, I said, 'Jesus, I love you, show yourself to me'. And for a whole week I had been reading, going through the Word of God and reading it. And it was amazing I discovered he was alive.
Sid Roth: What do you mean you discovered he was alive? You were a born again believer. How could you have been a born again believer and then all of a sudden say, 'I discovered he was alive'? I'm not understanding.
Charles Ndifon: This is what happened. There's one thing about reading about a person and getting to meet the person. Paul made a statement, he said, 'he appeared to many people and he appeared to me many years after he had risen from the dead'. And seem too farfetched, Paul said. It seemed as if it was impossible for to happen, but he appeared to me, too. And I can say the same thing. I said, 'Jesus, if you're real, make yourself real to me'. And we were there.
Sid Roth: Question: did you really expect him to?
Charles Ndifon: I did, yes.
Sid Roth: Okay. Go ahead.
Charles Ndifon: I expected him because I knew he couldn't fail, he couldn't break what he had said. His word is true.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Charles Ndifon: So what happened was we're in the campus center. We had been commissioned to go to the world.
Sid Roth: Excuse me. You know, people are being healed right now as we're talking.
Charles Ndifon: I know.
Sid Roth: Do you know that there are people, what I heard is someone with a pain in their neck, I don't know if it was whiplash or what, all that pain is gone. But I want to hear what happened to you in 1987.
Charles Ndifon: It's amazing. In fact, when we started speaking, when we started this program today, I realized so many miracles were taking place. There is somebody with a brain tumor that's just been healed, watching this. I saw another person blind in the left eye and wearing a red shirt, just instantly healed. The eyes just opened up. It's marvelous what's taking place. It's marvelous. So back to what happened was I was very, very hungry for his presence and because the scripture had said, 'anyone who believes in me and what I do they'll do also and if you love me my father will manifest himself to you'. And do what happened was we were in the campus center, hands being laid on us commissioning us to go into the world. It was a normal day, 3:00 in the afternoon. I really wasn't, I wasn't expecting it was going to be that day. It was just a normal day. We had students there and the gentleman laid hands on me and went to the next person. When he did that, Jesus appeared to me just as you are sitting here. I was not sleeping. I was not dreaming. It's amazing how he can appear to you and people don't see him. It's amazing what Paul said. He talked about his experience. He said he could appear to him. In fact the people that are watching this will be experiencing the same thing, Jesus showing up, appearing to them, showing himself that he's alive. It said, 'he showed himself alive. It says that, 'he showed himself alive by many infallible proofs'. He showed himself after his passion and the same thing happened. So he showed himself alive just as you there. First thought that came to my mind was, is either I'm dead. I felt so unclean. I said, 'o Lord, what's going on? What's going on?' I said, 'whatever I have done, I really am sorry. I repent of everything,' over and over again. I could not contain his presence. It was amazing. But what I realized was he looked right through me and never condemned me. His eyes were so full of love.
Sid Roth: What you witnessed was what the Bible talks about as perfect love.
Charles Ndifon: Exactly.
Sid Roth: Unconditional, pure.
Charles Ndifon: Somebody calls it liquid love. You can feel it.
Sid Roth: Yes.
Charles Ndifon: Exactly what happened to me. He never condemned me. He just looked at me and all he said was, 'Announce the good news. Preach the Gospel. As I was with those in the past, so will I be with you. If the people can believe the message you give them, no sickness, no disease will be able to stand against you'.
Sid Roth: Let's look at a man that for ten years was confined to a wheelchair in Zimbabwe, what happened when he was in the presence of Charles.
Sid Roth: Sid Roth here with Charles Ndifon and I am so intrigued with this encounter you had with Jesus in 1987. It's tell me what you saw when you looked in his eyes.
Charles Ndifon: What I saw was absolutely amazing to know that he doesn't condemn anybody. I was very surprised at what happened when he looked at me. And when he said to me, 'preach the Gospel, announce the good news, and as I was with those in the past will I be with you, if the people will believe the good news you tell them of what I've done for them nothing will be able to stand against you'. And then he said it again, 'preach the Gospel'.
Sid Roth: Now when he walked, did he walk into you or through you? What happened?
Charles Ndifon: That's the next thing that happened. What happened was at that moment i, all the thoughts going through my mind was either I'm in heaven, I'm dead or something. Everything paled where I was. I didn't see any other person that was in that auditorium. I didn't see anything else. I just saw Jesus. There was just the glory that was around him. Everything faded in his presence. And then he did something unusual, just walked right into me and I fell like a dead man. I was dead for hours. I wasn't aware I had been there. When I got up I realized I had been drenched in my own tears. What was happening when he came I felt my whole body was about to explode. It's like having something cooked in the microwave feeling it's about to explode. That's how I felt. I thought I'm dying, I'm dying. And this peace just came over me as I was on the ground there. That encounter changed me. When I got up I knew that the Jesus I proclaimed was not dead. He was indeed alive. Shortly after that, I went to, went on, during ministry I saw a remarkable change. There was a boldness and a clarity of what I was saying. I knew the one I proclaimed was indeed alive. The proof was the miracles.
Sid Roth: Now when you operate many time with what is known as words of knowledge, you know things, like you did in the last segment, you know things about people.
Charles Ndifon: Yes.
Sid Roth: But I want to find out what happened when you went into a hospital in the dying ward. I mean, a place, it's the last stop before they die. What happened?
Charles Ndifon: It was interesting what happened was we went over there, and we do this every Sunday. We go after service and minister to the people. But when I walked in there this was the male medical ward and it says 'terminal'. That's where the terminal people were left, the patients are left to die. Normally in Nigeria you have 20 people in a long room, ten on one side. You have a nursing station in the front and you come in there and say what patient you want to see. So knowing that we came from the campus it was interesting what happened. I walked in to the middle. There was a young man there basically dying, had been there for months. And all I said to him, I said, 'I come from God the good news. God sent me to you. Would you like to go home today? How would like to be healed?' that is the message he's been waiting for. The world is hurting. They want good news of Jesus.
Sid Roth: Was there anyone listening to you besides that person?
Charles Ndifon: No. It was just a normal conversation just like somebody is sitting here.
Sid Roth: All right. Okay.
Charles Ndifon: So now this is the interesting thing that happened. When I spoke to him I said, 'I come from God with good news'. And I talked to him and three minutes later, I said, 'listen, would you like to be well?' he said yes. And he prayed a simple prayer, received life, received Jesus into his heart. This is what happened. I just held him by his hand. I said, 'get up and walk'. Instantly, every trace of his condition left him. When he got up then everyone else, the attention was just changed everything in the place.
Sid Roth: Obviously.
Charles Ndifon: And this is what happened. This young man began to scream and then the next person said, 'help me, too. Help me, too. Please help me'. I turned around and said, 'would you like to be healed also?' he said yes. I touched him and I said, 'get up in the name of Jesus'. The moment I touched him life came to his body and instantly he was healed. There was a young man for three months had not been able to eat. He had been on iv for such a long time and basically they were waiting for him to just waste away and die. And when I touched him, I said, 'get up in the name of Jesus'. Instantly he said he felt something go through his whole body and then when he stood up, he had not eaten for three months, he asked for a bowl of rice. He called his mother, he said, 'mama, get me something to eat'. He ate three bowls of rice. There was another man across the aisle. As these people were getting healed there was such excitement in the place. The people were doing calisthenics. They were kicking themselves, doing all kinds of things. It was so exciting. Now there was another young man. He was in some contraptions. Some young men had attacked him with some clubs, robbed him, beat his head in. And this is what happened to him, he was in this contraption and I could hear him faintly calling out, 'please help me. Please help me'. He was paralyzed and he said to me, the moment I grabbed him I said, 'do you want to be healed?' and he said yes. And I started lifting him up. He felt something left his body and stayed on the bed while he got up, and that thing left instantly. The spirit left his body. The spirit that held him in paralysis left his body and instantly he was free. He took the rest of the contraption off and started running. That place went crazy. Every one of those people were instantly healed.
Sid Roth: How many people?
Charles Ndifon: Twenty of them in less than half an hour.
Sid Roth: Did you hear that? This is the dying ward. Everyone, 20 were instantly healed. What happens when Charles walks into one of the worst prisons in the world? Don't go away and I'm going to have him start praying in this next segment. Be right back.
Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth here with Charles Ndifon, and Charles, before we get to that amazing thing that happened in a prison in Mongolia I think it's, I mean it's outrageously amazing, God has been speaking to you about what's happening right now.
Charles Ndifon: There are people being healed right now. There are marvelous things taking place. There is somebody who had a stroke, paralysis healed, right side is paralyzed. You had a stroke on the left side of your brain. Instantly you're feeling a warmth going through your body. God is healing you right now. There is a another person that has what are called acid reflux. It's being healed right now. Another person with crohn's is being healed in the intestine, and God is just healing you completely. You go back and eat something and see what God is doing. There is somebody, I see you've had paralysis. It's been caused by connected tissue disease. God is healing you right now. I want you to get up from that wheelchair you've been in and your body will completely recover right now. There's also a man, I see you, you have almost like a brain shunt. God is healing that person right now. Somebody with scoliosis is being healed right now. Straighten up your back. You'll find that lump in your back has just disappeared. Wonderful things are taking place.
Sid Roth: Charles, what you have to understand also is if he did not mention your situation, I know this, I know that there is a flow, a river, if you will, of healing coming out of your television set.
Charles Ndifon: That's right.
Sid Roth: Your computer, or however you're looking at this right now, and it's so good to be in God's presence. It's so refreshing. You see, wherever this river goes there is life. Mongolia, what happened?
Charles Ndifon: It was amazing. We went to where we had the miracle campaign in the stadium during the day. And this particular day we took a break, and I was told we should go to the maximum security prison in Mongolia, and we're told that's where the hard core people are and had gangs within the place. When we went in there, we're kind of dressed down. They were kind of snickering, like who are you, what are you coming here to do? And I thought, well bring the big gun. I told them, I said, 'I want you to bring five people here. If Jesus does not heal them then don't listen to us. We are false prophets. You can just do your own activities'. I said, 'bring them here. If God does not heal them we are false prophets'. You know, the people in the gang, they knew people in the prison, so they kind of brought their toughest cases and put them in there.
Sid Roth: Now what if you, if God didn't come through?
Charles Ndifon: Oh God always comes through. It's always the case.
Sid Roth: Always.
Charles Ndifon: Always the case. He never fails. Always.
Sid Roth: Some countries in Africa, if you do that and God doesn't come through you'll be a dead man. You do know that.
Charles Ndifon: I know that. But you know, the Bible declares that those that know their God will be strong and do mighty exploits. I believe what God says in his word. It cannot change.
Sid Roth: So what happened to these inmates?
Charles Ndifon: So they brought a man, totally deaf and they kind of pushed him to the front. It was kind of interesting. I said, okay. They brought another one, paralyzed on one side. They brought another one, he was partially blind. And they brought another one, he had some internal things that caused some condition on the outside. And just said, one after another, I just said to them, I said, 'this is the message I bring to you that what I say is the truth and we can prove it that Jesus is alive today. If he is not alive he could not do these miracles. The proof is in the miracles he does. Without the miracles, don't believe us'. And so the people were listening to us. The first man, now I just touched his ears. I said, 'come out of him'. Instantly the hearing opened and you can see the attention of the people in the prison. It got the attention immediately. And then the second person that was paralyzed, I just pointed at him and said, 'stand up'. He just stood up as if he wasn't paralyzed. There was no thunder and lightning. There was just the power of God came upon them. They were healed then the next one, then the next one, then the next one. By the time we got to the fifth one you would see the atmosphere change. You couldn't tell which gang was what. They all rushed to the front. And I said, 'how many of you want this Jesus that just healed those people?' all the hands were up. They were so amazed at the miracles. And shortly after that we gave them Bibles. It was amazing to see the miracles. And I told them, this is the proof that what we have to say is the truth. I didn't come here to give you another religion. I came with life for Mongolia. This is what you will need, God's life coming to Mongolians.
Sid Roth: All right, let me ask you a question. You were a young man in Nigeria and you heard a man that has probably seen more miracles, led more people to the Lord, t.L. Osborn.
Charles Ndifon: That's right.
Sid Roth: And t.L. Osborn came to bring the miracle anointing to your country.
Charles Ndifon: That's right.
Sid Roth: But God spoke to you when he was speaking about what you were supposed to do. What did he tell you?
Charles Ndifon: It was a conference we attended with 10,000 people there. I was just one of the people in the crowd and he made a statement. Made a statement while he was there. He said, 'God has sent me to Nigeria, Africa to show you that the Gospel really works'. At that moment the Holy Spirit spoke to me very clearly. He said, 'go to America and show them the Gospel works'. Because I realized later on that people always say it only works in Africa, only works in Asia, but not in America. And I said, 'Lord, but they have all the great preachers from America'. And the Lord said to me, 'they haven't seen one like you'. He said, 'you go'. When I came here I thought they were going to roll out the red carpet for me. Here comes God's man.
Sid Roth: Especially God sending you.
Charles Ndifon: No one even knew I existed. But this is what happened when I came. Out on the street the miracles began to happen. The word got around this little town in Pennsylvania. Immediately people began to come. They said, there's this guy from Africa. He just poked a cripple man and he can walk. The word got around. That's how it began when I came here and the proof was the miracles. When they saw the miracles, just the like the Bible, 'they followed him because of the miracles which he did on those that were sick'. And it just never changed.
Sid Roth: Charles, the presence of God is so strong right now. It's a power. It's not your normal healing anointing at this moment. It's a power. Would you pray for people right now.
Charles Ndifon: I will. I want those that are sick, it doesn't matter what the sickness is, I want you to know that the Bible that he healed them all. No matter the sickness, no matter the disease, it doesn't matter who you are, if you can only believe all things are possible, right now I want you to know that God wants you free. Only Satan wants you sick. While I'm speaking to you, whatever condition it is, I want you, take your eyes off that condition and look to Jesus the one who heals, and when you do that I want you to touch that area of your body where you have the most pain or symptom. Just place your hand there and then stretch your hands towards me, towards the television right now. As I'm speaking, that sickness will leave your body right now. I rebuke every sickness, every disease, every blood condition, every cancer, every tumor. Blind spirit, I command you now loose them in Jesus' name. I come against every weakness in the legs, back pain, whatever it is, now go in the name of Jesus. Deaf spirits, you come out of them now in the name of Jesus. I rebuke the condition of HIV, be healed now in Jesus' name. Every other sickness I speak life to their bodies. You spirit of infirmity, in the name of Jesus, loose the people and let them go in Jesus' name. And I want to encourage you whatever you cannot do, I want you to do it immediately. If you are blind open your eyes and see what God has done. If you're deaf, let somebody speak to you or you can have someone test your hearing right now. If you're crippled, get up that wheelchair, get up that bed that you've been in, arise and walk in the name of Jesus. Whatever the condition is, if you cannot move your legs, move your legs right now. God is healing you. If you have tumors and cancer I want you to check that part of your body again and see what God is doing. There's power coming to you right now. That cancer, that tumor is destroyed from its very roots. That spirit of cancer can't stay in your body from today. Don't expect it to come back soon. You go back to your doctor and get a good report and let us know what God is doing. Miracles are taking place everywhere right now. There are people being healed. I see so many people being healed of aids right now. You're feeling like a heat is going through your body. There are people right now, tumors are disappearing, people that are blind that are seeing right now, people that have pain in their knees just being healed. Missing parts, I see somebody with missing cartilage is having a new one right now. There is somebody with a kidney condition that is being healed right now. You are on dialysis and you can see lumps in your hands from the dialysis. Right now the kidney is beginning to function again. In about half an hour you'll be using the bathroom to prove to you that God has healed you. And I see somebody also, you have dialysis, you're on dialysis, the lumps you had are disappearing right now.
Sid Roth: And let me tell you something, I can tell the difference in the anointing. This is power. It's raw power in Jesus' name.
Charles Ndifon: Hallelujah.