Sid Roth - Accessing the Next Level of the Glory Realm
Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it's naturally supernatural. My guest operates in the new, greater glory. Are you ready for this new level of glory?
Sid Roth: Hello, Sid Roth here. And I'm with Dr. Georg Karl. He is, I call him an apostle of God's glory from Germany. So, you're studying theology in a school that isn't particularly into things of the Spirit.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: But you have a very unusual guest speaker. What happened?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well actually, an atheist professor had invited a guest speaker from Malaysia who was to deliver a lecture at the university hall. But actually, what he did, he just spoke on miracles the whole time. So at the end of the lecture, I figured, I said to myself, "Well, the people here at the university, they might have great intellect, but what this guy has, that's what I really want". So, I went to his tent, and got Spirit-filled.
Sid Roth: He had a tent meeting early on?
Dr. Georg Karl: Yeah. Right.
Sid Roth: When you went there, tell me what you mean, you got "Spirit-filled"?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, I just started talking in other tongues in that meeting, although actually, as a theologian, at that time, I wasn't even believing in talking in other tongues. So, he got me there.
Sid Roth: But several months later you had a repercussion of what happened at that tent. What happened to you?
Dr. Georg Karl: Right. I was lying on the couch in my student's dormitory there at Tubingen University, just meditating on the Lord, just praying. I was not sleeping, not asleep at all, but suddenly while I was praying, I felt like some kind of power was starting to lift up my head from the couch. And I could feel, just as I was still straight, my body still was straight, but I looked on to my left side, and I could see the floor moving away from me. So, it ended up me being suspended in the air with only my heels on the couch. So, before I could even think about it, what happened was, three huge surges of liquid love just were coming through my whole body, from the top of my head to the soles of my feet. It was warm liquid love just flowing through me. And after the three surges had gone through me, I slowly, slowly was being put back to the couch again. And of course, I was completely flabbergasted what happened; I didn't even have a grip for it. I got up from the couch, and I thought, what was that?
Sid Roth: I mean, you're saying that this non-Spirit-filled school of theology, I mean, it's a good thing you didn't tell that atheistic professor about that. But that was the beginning of the most amazing adventure. And you teach on the glory, you operate in the glory. So many people now operate in Germany in the glory, from the churches you're an apostle over. What's your favorite scripture on the glory?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, maybe there are two. One is in Isaiah Chapter 6, where the angels, they shout, and they say, "The whole earth is filled with the glory of the Lord"! But then an even better one, I believe, is Habakkuk Chapter 2, Verse 14, which I believe is for our times because it says, "Here, in the end, the knowledge of the glory of the Lord will fill the whole earth as the waters covers the sea".
Sid Roth: And that knowledge is revelation knowledge.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes. Yes. It comes out of the manifestation of the presence of the glory, really. When people really get a tangible experience with the glory, then the knowledge comes.
Sid Roth: How do we recognize this glory?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well actually, I believe you can't recognize the glory through your intellect. So, it has to come from Spirit to Spirit, because the glory really is a spiritual substance. But once you're really hungry for reality in your life, you will immediately recognize the glory, because you will find out the substance of the glory really is the answer to your deepest longing. It's the fulfillment of your deepest desires.
Sid Roth: It's what we were originally created by God to be clothed in.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: The glory of God. What happens in the glory?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, it's like a gasp of relief for the whole spirit, body and soul. It's like, for example, I often ask the people and I tell them, how long do you believe sickness will stand in the glory? And of course, the answer is, not one second. So, sickness has to leave in the glory.
Sid Roth: You know, when we're, I was just thinking, when you said, "Sickness has to leave" when we're coated in the glory of God "no," and you know the scripture. "No weapon formed against you shall prosper".
Dr. Georg Karl: Amen. Yes.
Sid Roth: They can't penetrate the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right. It's like a bubble around you.
Sid Roth: But you said something else.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yeah.
Sid Roth: Adam was intending to live forever. I believe when we're coated in the glory, we'll be in divine not live we will live forever, because this is just a temporary earth suit. But while we're in the temporary earth suit, I believe God restores everything in the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Absolutely. You are rejuvenated, you are revitalized. Sickness goes away. Demons have to flee, like even if you have been traumatized in your soul, like I can just see right now there's a lady who has been traumatized really deeply in your soul. And it's, like, it's voices that are tormenting you. And even, like, this heavy, dark weight on your soul. But right now, I say get in the glory right now. It's all falling off of you right now, in Jesus Name.
Sid Roth: Is it important to be intentional in seeking this, what we're created to receive, which is the manifest presence of God, clothed in that?
Dr. Georg Karl: Mmm.
Sid Roth: It's, like, God is clothed in the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yeah.
Sid Roth: And we're created in God's image. And we're supposed to be clothed in the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right. And we have to make up our mind that we really want to be living in the glory on a consistent basis, because of course, the devil doesn't want you to live in that original habitat you have been made for, because in the glory, you become a real threat for the devil. So, he doesn't want you to do that. So of course, the glory is the most powerful and also the most adventurous realm you could ever live in, but it's also the most contended for. So, you really have to make up your mind, you have to make that decision, and say, well, I will make living in the glory the priority number one in my life. Because you really have to make up your mind, I'm not going to settle for less.
Sid Roth: What would you call the great key to operating in what's known as the "greater works"?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, actually, first John Chapter 4, Verse 17 says, "As Jesus is, so are we in this world". It doesn't say "As Jesus was, so are we in this world," but "As Jesus is, so are we in this world". So, where or how is Jesus now? Well, of course, He's in the glory. He's sitting at the right hand of the father. He's the glorified Son of God, as you can see Him in Revelations Chapter 1, Verse 12. So, what we really need to do is to hook up with the glorified Jesus. We really need to identify with Him. We really need to look up to Him and see what He is doing and become a channeler here on this earth for the glorified Jesus, and for what He is doing. And that's actually the key to the greater works. As Jesus says, "He who believes in Me, he will do the same works as I do, and even greater, because I go to the Father". So now He is in the glory. But in Him, we are in the glory with Him. So, through this link, we bring the glory to this earth, we actually become part of.
Sid Roth: What I'm hearing Georg say is, once you get the revelation, correct me if I'm wrong once you get this revelation, it's mine.
Dr. Georg Karl: Amen.
Sid Roth: It's mine!
Dr. Georg Karl: You're already there. You're already there.
Sid Roth: Don't send it, Lord, it's mine.
Dr. Georg Karl: Amen. That's you're there.
Sid Roth: I live in it. I dream in it.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes. Hallelujah.
Sid Roth: I go in it. I walk in it. I got it. I got it.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: I hope you've got it. People, when this glory is on someone like you, you don't even pray for people. And they just come in your presence so, like Peter had you know, his shadow, people wanted to get under his shadow. It's under the glory that was coming from Peter.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: Not so much his physical shadow.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: It was the glory. Same thing happens, you're just working in your yard, what happened?
Dr. Georg Karl: That's right. I was trimming a tree, standing on my ladder, just focusing on that tree, not thinking about anything else, when suddenly behind me in the street which is passing by our house, suddenly I heard a lady cry, "I'm healed! I'm healed"! So, I just looked down the ladder, and there she was, jumping up and down and saying, "I'm healed! I'm healed"! And actually, she got healed, I believe it was back and hip pain. She got healed that very moment when she came into the presence that comes off of a son of God, really.
Sid Roth: And you trained many how to have the knowledge of the glory of the Lord.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: That's what you're doing, exactly what the Word says.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: Now Georg, you use a phrase that I really, I don't understand it exactly, but it just, it hits me as so right. You fell into the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes.
Sid Roth: How did you fall into the glory?
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, actually, it's important to understand that nobody can work himself into the glory. It's not by works, it's by grace and through faith. And what we really need is an understanding of the full gospel of Jesus who, from the cross, to the throne, really substitutionally redeemed us from the fall. So that means we are co-crucified with Him. We are co-buried with Him. We are co-resurrected with Him, and we are also co-ascended with Him and co-glorified with Him. So, once we understand this revelation, we realize we are already there in the glory. The glory is already ours, as Jesus says in John, Chapter 17, Verse 22, it says, "Father, the same glory that you have given me, I have given to them". So, once we understand that, we realize we can't do anything in order to really get the glory or work ourselves into the glory. And once we really let go of our own efforts and we really let ourselves fall into the reality of what the Word of God really says, we let ourselves fall into what's already been provided for us, which is the original habitat of mankind the glory then it really starts impregnating our lives, and we really start getting permeated by the glory in our lives. It's just by letting go. It's not by working something up.
Sid Roth: I saw you pray for people to fall into the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: And everyone had their eyes closed, and they just imagined falling into the arms of Jesus, into the glory.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: But later on, in the show, I want you to pray that for our audience.
Dr. Georg Karl: Okay.
Sid Roth: You do realize this, but the more you talk about the glory, the stronger the presence of God gets.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes. I realize that.
Sid Roth: Have you noticed that correlation?
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes.
Sid Roth: Tell me some of the miracles that you have seen when you've prayed, or even been in the presence of people, or those you've trained. He gets more excited over the people he trains to fall into the glory then what happens when he does it.
Dr. Georg Karl: That's right, because that's how it really should be. My job really is to activate the people.
Sid Roth: Yes.
Dr. Georg Karl: Not doing all the work.
Sid Roth: So, tell me how that story got started.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yeah. Well, this lady from our healing team, she regularly goes to the streets, and evangelizes people. And once she had a teenage girl that was an unbeliever. And she had one of her fingers only half developed since her childhood. So, she had had a certain disease, and so the finger hadn't developed.
Sid Roth: Right.
Dr. Georg Karl: So, what she just did, she just put her hand on the finger of the teenage girl, and the other teenage girl that was with her, also an unbeliever, was watching. So, she put her hand around the finger and just commanded the finger to grow out again, and boom! The finger was there. The girl got so shocked, she put her hand behind her back, because she got so shocked, she had that new finger. And the other unbelieving friend, she was just crying out, "You have a new finger! You have a new finger! You have a new finger"! She didn't want it to show, because she was so shocked. So that was really an awesome thing.
Sid Roth: I would have to believe evangelists, if that woman hadn't been saved that got the new finger evangelism would have been easy after that.
Dr. Georg Karl: Absolutely.
Sid Roth: Not just her, but everyone watching that.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: I mean, it's not three steps to get someone saved, it's demonstrate the kingdom and earn the right to introduce them to the King. It's that simple.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right. Right.
Sid Roth: Everyone is an evangelist, then.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: Tell me some other miracles.
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, for example, I had a lady in one of our glory and miracle services, she came in a wheelchair. She had MS. Actually, she needed six creative miracles altogether. She was nearly blind because the MS had affected her nerves. She had six gallstones. She had a lung tumor, she had diabetes, she had a twisted leg, and of course she was sitting in the wheelchair, having MS. So, I called her up in the meeting, not knowing what her condition was, and just ask her whether she was ready to do a step of faith with me out of the wheelchair, which she did. And the Lord completely healed her from the MS and all the other things, and just dissolved, the gallstones dissolved, the lung tumor dissolved, the blindness went away. She just got completely healed, which is already a powerful miracle. But what happened then, she immediately started praying for others who had similar conditions than her. For example, her neighbor, she was also in a wheelchair suffering with MS. She prayed for her, and she also got up out of the wheelchair. Hallelujah.
Sid Roth: That is normal.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes.
Sid Roth: I wish the whole world would be normal.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes.
Sid Roth: Boy, I wish we had time to cover all this stuff I have here on these notes. He has seen rooms in heaven that I've never even heard of. Let me ask you, because you got my curiosity piqued. Tell me about heavenly pain clinic.
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, I once went in a vision. I went into heaven, and I saw different rooms in Heaven, as Jesus pointed out in John, Chapter 4 and Verse 2, there are many rooms in Heaven. So, I went to different rooms. And one of those rooms I saw was really, yeah, what I would call the heavenly pain clinic. And in this room, people were getting a divine anesthesia into their bodies when they had pain, in order for their condition to properly heal up. So, after that, when I came out of that, I released that room to the people, and immediately the people got pain-free that I prayed for.
Sid Roth: What about the vision of listen to this one, the room of rejuvenation. Tell me about that room.
Dr. Georg Karl: Well, actually it was the room of rejuvenation of organs.
Sid Roth: Of organs.
Dr. Georg Karl: Of organs, yeah.
Sid Roth: Ooh, that's even better!
Dr. Georg Karl: What I saw in this room was, I saw, like, little pools with bubbling water in them. And then I saw angels taking certain organs like kidneys or livers, that have somehow been affected by any kind of decay or disease or something, and they just put the organs into those little pools of bubbling water. And when they took them out again, they were completely restored and rejuvenated. So, when I got out of this room, for example, just one example, I prayed for a lady. The doctor had told her that she had the heart of an 80-year-old, and she was very much younger. So, I prayed for her, and then she went back to the doctor, and the doctor would tell her, "Wow, you've got the heart just of a young deer".
Sid Roth: But this is what you've got to understand. His job is to make you normal. His job is not for you to put him on a pedestal.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: His job is for you to put Jesus in you on the pedestal.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: Now, when we come back, Georg tells us a vision he had of what's coming in the greater glory. He'll also pray for you to fall into the glory. And I wouldn't mind some of those rooms you pray and those impartations on us, like the rooms of rejuvenation, or organs, and so many others. Be right back.
Sid Roth: I'm here with Dr. Georg Karl. And he had a revelation of what is coming.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yeah. Actually, I was in a hotel room in Florida, just a few months ago. And suddenly I went into a vision, and I saw a huge wave of revival that was coming to the earth. And actually, what I saw was, this upcoming revival would be a combination of three major revivals that we have seen during the last 25 years. So, it would be a combination, actually, of the purity and the cleaning fire of the Holy Spirit, together with the great and notable miracles of the Holy Spirit, and together with the liberty and freedom in the Holy Spirit. So, I saw in that vision, it would be a combination of all those three parts, but at the same time it would be an unprecedented new move of God, of course. And it would usher in, really, the final great harvest as it would activate and mobilize the sons of glory all around the world.
Sid Roth: I believe that it's going to be so big that if someone were to tell you how big it is, we wouldn't even be able to believe it.
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: It's beyond it's going to be beyond our comprehension.
Dr. Georg Karl: Absolutely.
Sid Roth: It is going to change the face of Christianity in the world.
Dr. Georg Karl: Absolutely.
Sid Roth: It's going to change the face of the nation you're watching us from right now.
Dr. Georg Karl: Yes. Yes.
Sid Roth: I want you to pray that we fall into the glory, and for miracles. I like the way you prayed, though, that one time I heard, where you say, "Close your eyes and imagine".
Dr. Georg Karl: Right.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Dr. Georg Karl: So right now, just close your eyes, wherever you're sitting, or wherever you are. Just close your eyes, and just imagine the habitat of the glory realm of God belongs to you through Christ Jesus. And right now, you just let yourself fall into this glory realm. You just let go of any distraction, any other thought, or any second thoughts, or anything. Just let yourself fall right now into that reality of what's already been provided. Just let yourself fall in the glory, right now. As the glory is not only upon you, it's also within you. And it's all around you. And it's flowing from the inside out of you, once you have fallen into it, right now. in Jesus Name. Father God, right now, I release the greater glory throughout the airwaves all over the world to Your people, in the Name of Jesus. I release the resurrection glory, even to any kind of a death situation that people might face right now, be it physically, be it financially, be it emotionally, or also be it relationally. I release this resurrection glory right now. I release this glory for creative miracles, even right now in the Name of Jesus, as new organs are being created, as I can see a thyroid has just been recreated on a woman's throat right now, in the Name of Jesus. And even the disease of Hashimoto is leaving your body right now. And even other diseases are right now just being wiped away in the glory, as the cancerous tumors just shrinking down right now, in the glory, in the Name of Jesus. Just receive it right now, where you are. Even numbness in your hand, I can see numbness in the hand of a person, it's just leaving you right now. Pain in your arm, just leaving you right now. Also, a pinched nerve in the back of somebody is just being restored, is just being loosened right now. And the numbness in the feet is going away right now in Jesus Name. So just receive your miracle, wherever you are. Even what I got from the Lord, really, is there is a couple watching, and you haven't been able to get a child, you haven't been able to become pregnant, because there have been hindrances in your body, or even in your bodies. But right now, I command the resurrection power of Jesus Christ to move away with those hindrances right now. So right now, the life is coming back to your reproductive organs. I just want you to receive and conceive. And by this time next year, you will have your child in Jesus Name. Hallelujah.