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Sid Roth - Divine Healing Secrets of John G. Lake with Curry Blake

Sid Roth - Divine Healing Secrets of John G. Lake with Curry Blake
TOPICS: Healing

In the early 1900s in Spokane, Washington, John G. Lake had over 100,000 verified healing miracles. My guest recently obtained a copy of Lake's original writings that revealed the secrets of Divine healing. Next on this edition of “It's Supernatural!”

Sid Roth: Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter here again this week with Curry Blake. If you tuned in last week, you remember that Curry prayed for the sick, and horror of horrors, his daughter died, and he wanted her to come back to life. And he called the top evangelists that he could think of and they were all too busy to come see him. And his daughter did not come back to life. And he made a vow, “I will be your man, God. If anyone ever calls me, I will go. I won't be too busy for them.” And then, horror of horrors, his second child - actually his third child, daughter - dies and this time, out of his spirit he said, “she's going to live and not die, and declare the works of the Lord. She's going to live and not die. She's going to live”, and supernaturally the life went back into this child, and she did live. And if you remember he also had a heavenly visitation in which he literally in this visitation in Heaven, he saw a man trying to get to him by the name of John G. Lake, and he kind of left it there. But now we understand why he tried to get to him because John G. Lake not only prayed for the sick and saw 100,000 people in Spokane, Washington healed, but he could teach other people to pray for the sick and these other people had the same results. And now Curry, you have that original teaching. But there, how did it even come into your hands? Why your hands?

Curry Blake: Well in 1995, I went to Alvin, Texas for a revival with, Charles daughter-in-law. And during the time I was put in contact with some people that were in a nursing home in Houston that had came to Houston with Dr. Lake in 1927. And they were Divine healing technicians that he had trained, and they had a manual that he wrote; and it was in their possession, and I was told that I could have it whenever they passed away. And I received it late '97, started studying it, practicing it, experimenting, and we went from about a 35 percent success rate, up to a hundred percent of the people that we can go back and document, people that contacted us, everyone that we prayed for that we know of is healed.

Sid Roth: Now out of curiosity, when you teach this to other people, do they get similar results?

Curry Blake: Yes they do. A matter of fact, identical, and they're going to bypass us because of where they're starting at. That's the beauty of it.

Sid Roth: Well what is the difference? What did John G. Lake know that was almost buried for all of these years that we don't know today?

Curry Blake: Well actually, the last time there were Divine healing technicians was in 1920, and bona fide technicians trained by Lake. In about two weeks, it will be the first time in 80 years that anyone has been certified as a Divine healing technician. We're going through a training class right now, and the people are seeing miracles; they're seeing healings. Most people that sit through the training get healed before they even finish the course.

Sid Roth: But tell me some of the secrets. I want to know.

Curry Blake: The two top ones I'll tell you real quick is this: One is you have to decide that this is it. Just like in sin, when you came to Christ you said, “I’m tired of sin; I want sin out of my life”, and you come to Christ, and you give up sin. The same thing is with sickness and disease. When you decide that it is an enemy and that you're fed up with it, and you're not going to take it any more, and then you start attacking it, and you get very aggressive, the aggressive nature is the main thing - the main one ingredient - but it doesn't come by just working yourself up into a frenzy or any kind of that stuff. It comes from simple confidence, which is trust and faith, and you just know that God will do what he says He'll do. You just take his word for it, and then you attack the enemy anywhere you find it, whether it's in...

Sid Roth: You know, it sounds so simple, Curry, that you need some help to get confused when you read the Bible. The Messiah, he took an aggressive stance.

Curry Blake: That's right. That's right. The other main point would be the fact that we do not allow for failure. In other words, we don't back off. We don't pray once and then say, “well if they don't get it, it's their fault”. That is not in the Bible. If anyone does not get healed, it's the person doing the laying on of hands, doing the ministry; it is their fault. The only time Jesus ever put blame on anyone it was on his disciples for not being able to heal the sick. And so that's the same position we take.

Sid Roth: Let's put it this way, where the rubber hits the road, not in a church situation.

Curry Blake: Right.

Sid Roth: You go out to one of the big public shopping malls in the United States. Tell me - tell me a place you went to and what happened; not where the people have been studying their whole life.

Curry Blake: Right, prepared and all that. Now a matter of fact, we see more and greater things out away from church than we do actually in church. Christians try to work their way into it and they don't get it that way, and that's why it's so hard to get Christians healed a lot of times. You have to have enough power, enough spirit of God in you to blast through that thing in a Christian, whereas we went to Dillard's, for example.

Sid Roth: It's a department store in the United States.

Curry Blake: Right. It was in Dallas, Texas.

Sid Roth: Okay.

Curry Blake: And a lady walked passed me, a Hispanic woman, middle-age, with a twisted, deformed foot. She couldn't walk normal. And I was waiting on my wife; nothing special, no vision, no Rhema word, none of that kind of stuff. Just - I saw her walk by, so I started following her because the sick catch my eye. And after I followed her a little bit I asked her if I could pray for her. She agreed. I knelt down on the floor right there in the department store, grabbed her foot. And we don't pray for the sick. That's one of the main differences. We command healing, and we will not allow for anything else. And if I had to stay there three hours and do it, I would do it. But we were only there for about five minutes, and her foot was instantly healed. We heard the things pop, crack, all that kind of stuff, grabbed her by the hand, started walking with her. At first she still limped, but after we started walking a little bit faster, then she started walking normal, and then she threw up her hands and started praising God in Spanish, but you could still understand it.

Sid Roth: Right in the department store.

Curry Blake: Right in the department store. People stopped and watched me pray for her, and they just stood there and watched.

Sid Roth: You know, your religious mind probably went “tilt” when Curry said that. That's not the way we do it. Well do you get results the way you do it? And since the Bible says we're supposed to “…do the same works that Jesus did and even greater”, and since the Bible says that “…God doesn’t change”, guess who did the changing? We have a song called "Tradition". Oy vey! Get rid of that “tradition” and let's have reality. We'll be right back with Curry. Don't go away.

Sid Roth: Hello. Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Curry Blake. Curry got the original notes of John G. Lake. John G. Lake had over 100,000 verified miracles of people being healed in Spokane, Washington. Spokane was known as the healthiest city in the United States at that time. It was the first quarter of the 20th century. And when he read these notes and started doing what John G. Lake said to do, he got the same results. Then he started training other people and they got the same results. Well Curry Blake, how come every church in America just about - they pray for the sick, and sometimes someone is healed, but more people are not healed than healed. How come?

Curry Blake: It's mainly because people set up their own, like you say, blockages. They decide what God - remember “…the woman with the issue of blood”? She said, "If I can but touch the hem of his garment”; well, she didn't have to touch the hem of his garment. She could have just believed God because healing was in the Covenant. So she could have gotten it any day. She could have went to the priest and got it. But we set up blockages and say, “God won't heal me because I've got this problem in my life”, or “I’m not perfect yet”, or “I did this wrong thing”, and that's - until you get rid of that blockage, God is not stopping it; you're stopping it. It's your own conscience. I always talk about our own conscience condemning us, and he says even “If your heart condemns you, then there's one that is greater”. That's “…the greater One”, the one that - once you get out of the way. If you didn't set your blockage up you could be healed; anybody can be healed any time, anywhere.

Sid Roth: You really believe this, don't you?

Curry Blake: I definitely believe it, more every day.

Sid Roth: Sometime in this television show I'm going to have you pray for the people.

Curry Blake: Yes.

Sid Roth: But tell me other reasons that we don't see the results in churches?

Curry Blake: Well we have a - one of the main things is just, well I have a saying. “Sacred cows” will keep you in milk, but they won't give you meat until you kill them, and that's what we do. We “kill sacred cows”; and when you kill all of them, then people start getting well; they start learning how to heal the sick. It's not just about getting people well; it is training them to heal the sick, to go out and let God use them. But the main thing that causes that would probably be there are 2 main doctrines, I would say. One is that we use the Roman-Greco method of instruction as opposed to the Hebrew method. The Roman-Greco method said gather everybody up in the room, one person stand up front, teach them. When you get done, give them a certificate; send them on their way. And then they get to go out and find out what they don't know, because you don't learn anything until you do it.

Sid Roth: And of course the Jewish way, or the way that Yeshua - that's Hebrew for “Jesus” - did it, is He said, Come, follow me. Watch what I do.

Curry Blake: Right.

Sid Roth: And do it the same way.

Curry Blake: Exactly. And that's what we do in these courses. We - when we do the seminar, we teach people, and we actually get them to go out with us. We went out to...

Sid Roth: You know, before you tell me, you know what really upsets me is religion has become a spectator sport.

Curry Blake: Yes, yes.

Sid Roth: And whoever has the best message that they're giving, the best music, the seeker-sensitive; and you have professionals, and then you have non-professionals; but we're all supposed to be enlisted in “the army”. My understanding is in the first congregation and in the history of the church we find that the least Christian could lay hands on the sick and people would be healed.

Curry Blake: That's right. That's exactly right because after all it's God that does the healing - not the person - and people just need to realize that people can be trained. Jesus trained his disciples to heal the sick. The same training can go on today, and we're proving it.

Sid Roth: Okay. So tell me another story. I like the idea of going in a public place, in a shopping mall. Tell me about another one.

Curry Blake: We went to a - what they call “the projects” in one area, and people were sitting outside their homes. This was a low-income area, and they were sitting outside because it's too hot to go inside. So there were people sitting around that were sick, diseased, had different things. One lady in particular had been - had suffered a stroke. She was paralyzed on one side. We went up to her, told her, "We've been in healing meetings all this week. We want to see Jesus do something out here with real people, as opposed to in the church with church people". So we said, "Could we pray for you"? And she said, “Sure.” She didn't believe anything; like anybody else, she was just there. We told her, "You don't have to do a thing. We're going to have faith for you. You just sit here and receive it". And then we laid hands on her. We commanded the healing to come about, and then I grabbed her arm and started moving her arm, and pretty soon she started moving it. Then she's waving it around her head. Then she said, "The pain is gone. All the pain is gone". The neighbors started gathering around. Then she said, "What about my leg"? We asked her, "What about your leg"? Because it was stiff, too. And she said, "I don't know". And she started moving it.

Sid Roth: Curry, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to stop you right now. The presence of God is so strong. I want you to pray for the sick right now. You've got to. Don't miss what God has right now.

Curry Blake: Right now, if you're sick, what I want you to do is just sit back, open your hands and say, “Yes God, I receive the gift You have for me”. You don't have to have special faith. That act will bring about the healing. I'm fixing to pray for you. I'm not going to pray, “God, if it be thy will, God, please do this”. I'm not going to beg him. I'm going to do exactly what He said to do, and that is to “…speak those things which be not as though they were.” I can't reach you, but I can stretch my hand out toward you; and if you would receive it right now, you will be healed exactly where you are. So just take note of the type of prayer, because this is what works all over the country. It's what's worked everywhere, and it's the way to do it. Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank You. I bless your holy name. You are the Lord God. And in the name of Jesus, you told us to lay hands on the sick and they will recover; not “they might”, “not they can”, but “they will recover”. So Father, right now, by an act of faith, I stretch forth my hand and I say in the name of Jesus, I pray; this is a prayer of faith. This is Your part right now. This is for you sitting there right now. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, be healed. In the name of Jesus, you be healed of the back problem; you be healed of the neck problem right now. Right now as you're sitting there, you're listening to this and you can't even see it. I command your eyes to open in Jesus' name. You see with the eyes of God in Jesus' name. Ears open in the name of Jesus. We command absolute healing, and in the name of Jesus, we do not accept anything less. So right now just believe it, receive it, accept it. It is yours. “[The] Word goes forth… it [will] not… return void”. In Jesus' name, so be it. Amen.

Sid Roth: I'll tell you something, the presence of God is here. There is enough power here to cause any miracle you need to happen. We'll be right back after this brief word.

Sid Roth: What I am hearing and feeling is the compassion of the Lord.

Curry Blake: That's right.

Sid Roth: And it's what I notice is when you pray for people, as I've observed you, you start many times weeping. Why do you weep?

Curry Blake: It is the compassion of God, and for me to weep is really something because I was raised very stoic. I did not show emotion. I was raised in a family with a police officer and that kind of thing, and you just didn't show emotion. But when the Spirit of God starts to move upon me and I sense it, I just start crying. A lot of times I don't even sense it until I start crying; there's no emotion connected with the crying. Tears just flow, but - and I don't look for the tears, because people get healed without them. But every time I cry, there's always somebody that gets healed, every time. A lot of times I can't even finish our meals at restaurants because I just start crying, and when I do, I start looking around because I know somebody is there that God -

Sid Roth: Tell me a specific person in a restaurant. You're eating. All of a sudden you start crying, and what do you do?

Curry Blake: Actually, this person was in their hometown back in Dallas.

Sid Roth: Dallas, Texas.

Curry Blake: Dallas, Texas. And we had not been doing anything special; we just went out to eat. And I saw this person that their leg was - they were not crippled, but their leg - there was something wrong with it - put it that way - and it was stiff; that was the main problem. And I went over and just started talking to him, and as I spoke to them. I told him, I said, "The only reason I'm here," I tell them, “Hi, my name is Curry Blake. This probably sounds crazy, but I pray for people, and God heals them. That's just the way it is. And I'll pray for your leg if you will let me right now, and God will heal you right now". And nine times out of ten they say, “Yeah, go ahead”. I've only had one person ever turn me down. And they always get healed, every time.

Sid Roth: Always get healed?

Curry Blake: Always get healed. In situations like that it is literally always instant.

Sid Roth: Just out of curiosity, isn't it a little embarrassing for your family as you're having a family dinner and all of a sudden you start weeping, and people wonder maybe your wife has just abused you in some way? Do they try to say, “cool down, it's family time”?

Curry Blake: Right. At first they did, because they thought it was just emotion. But now they start looking around, too. See, once the power of God is demonstrated in someone's life, then people - all the other stuff starts falling away; the false doctrines, the false teachings and stuff. You know, all the little things - all the trivialities of life - fall away, because you know somebody is going to get healed; someone is going to get help. We've talked to people everywhere. Word of knowledge for people in Walmarts; they start crying. I'm already crying usually when I'm talking to them.

Sid Roth: What do you mean by “word of knowledge”?

Curry Blake: A “word of knowledge” is whenever God tells you a specific thing that is going on in their life. It may be for healing. It may be for just a situation.

Sid Roth: Give me a real life experience.

Curry Blake: Okay. I was in Walmart; tried to talk to this girl that I knew God wanted me to; didn't want to because I didn't have a word. I didn't know what to say, and I let her get away from me. I found her again, and then I started - I just walked up to her and said, "This may sound crazy, but God told me to come talk to you". And I said, "I don't know all this, but I know that He says right now that what you're going through, you're going to come out of this stronger. And don't worry, He's with you, He knows where you're at, and He has not left you". And she started crying, and then she told me. She had a little girl in a buggy with her, and she said - now at first I told her; I said, "All we need is more of this". And I put my hand on her daughter, which sounded kind of strange. Some people might not receive more children as a blessing. But she started crying and she said, "Well my husband and I just separated and he filed for divorce". And I said, "Aren't you glad that God knows your situation? He told me to come tell you you’re going to be okay". And I said, "And I guess this is your daughter". And she said, "Yeah, her name is Faith". So when I laid my hand on her I said, "All you need is more of this. God was saying you need more faith". But I didn't know her name was Faith. So that's a word of knowledge; something that you can't possibly know from the physical realm, but you just know it. And that happens pretty regularly, especially when I'm praying for people. And we pray for them during our services. When we start praying, I don't move through quick. I take my time with each person, and that's part of that compassion because I have to hear their story. I have to know what's going on with them.

Sid Roth: But in the average church, though, just boom-boom-boom, just touch them and it's done.

Curry Blake: Right. Well...

Sid Roth: And most of them aren't healed.

Curry Blake: Exactly. I was going to say, it's not done. They're touched, but they're not healed.

Sid Roth: What good is that?

Curry Blake: That's part of the difference right there. We stay with them. We don't give up until they get what they need. We just don't give up. It's that perseverance. Faith is nothing but determined perseverance.

Sid Roth: Now I understand that this John G. Lake, whose notes you had, would teach the people, and then at the end of, say, a 30-day course, he would send them out to give them a name of someone that was sick, and what would happen? What would he tell them?

Curry Blake: Right. He would tell them, “Here's the name of the person that made the call-in. You go to their house, and don't come back until they're well.”

Sid Roth: So I imagine a lot of people didn't come back.

Curry Blake: Actually, a few did, but most all of them did because once you're around it, see, a lot of this is caught as you're around it and you see it. Your faith is enlarged, and you start to believe for it. R.W. Schambach or A.A. Allen, same thing. He received a healing ministry because he was around healing miracles. You get around it - nobody can sit through these classes 30 days without getting well. And we're at the point where we're fixing to put up a $500 bond; anybody that can sit through the class without getting healed, that we will give them the $500. Within the next month, we will have that in place, because I'm that convinced that what we're teaching works. And anyone that we train, anybody can do it. They don't just have to come to me to be trained. It's just faster.

Sid Roth: I like your “aggressiveness”. That's the best way to describe it.

Curry Blake: Right.

Sid Roth: Because after a while, if you pray for enough people and you have the majority not healed, you're faking it.

Curry Blake: Exactly. Exactly.

Sid Roth: I know a lot of people that are faking.

Curry Blake: See, that's the main thing, it has to be real. If it's not, go back to doing what you were doing before. It has to be real, and we've seen it; we can transfer it. A pastor came down from Vancouver. He was there four or five nights; went back, same thing. He said, "I'm using your methods, which I'm not a formula type person". But he watched us just like they watched Jesus. And then he went back exactly the same way and it works. Now like you said, you “like the aggressiveness”, but there's a lot that don't. We were in a church in one place - I'm not going to name where it was at - but they had asked me to come and pray for a girl that had epilepsy. We cast that thing out of her; she was healed instantly. But because of the way I prayed, I was told that I couldn't minister the next Wednesday like I was supposed to, and that I should change my ministry style to meet their church's personality.

Sid Roth: Isn't that exactly what happened to the Messiah? Isn't that exactly the reaction that the religious people had to him? And it's the same spirit. But I know there's more. I know there is greater intimacy with God. I know that you can walk the way Jesus walked. I know that you can be healed. I know that you can lay hands on the sick. Right now, right now, right at this moment there is - right at this moment, there is an overpowering presence of God that is going to meet your physical needs. And where hopelessness was, there is hope; supernatural hope. You are going to be healed. You are going to experience God. You are precious in God's sight. You are loved by God. You are “…the apple of His eye”. You do have a purpose. Experience his love right now. Right this moment a neck was healed. Right this moment, you’re experiencing His love.
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