Kenneth Copeland - You Can Exercise and Laugh Yourself Healthy
KENNETH: Hello everybody. I'm Kenneth Copeland. Welcome to the believers voice of victory broadcast.
Father, we are so grateful today. We thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We give you praise and today is specially and thank you for sending Dr. Jackson to us, to give us insight into this marvelous human being, the price creation of all time and we thank you and we pray. Thank you Lord. I'll mention that in Jesus name. Amen.
Would you join me in welcoming Dr. Jackson to this broadcast today? Just as I was praying the Lord, just flashed this across my thinking. He created everything, everything before he created his man. He provided completely for him before he ever created him. So here's a way to fix everything. Amen. Amen. Amen. He is the provider.
DR. JACKSON: Amen.
KENNETH: He's the beginning and he's the end, the Alpha and the Omega. And to have men like you called into this very special, branch of medical science, neurosurgery and the dealing with the brain. And for those of you that you weren't with us yesterday, Dr. Jackson is a neurosurgeon and knew he was going to be a neurosurgeon, Because he heard the Lord say it to him back as a very little boy, seven or eight years old and he stayed with the program and now very successful and he won't tell you this but I will, very renowned neurosurgeon. And I'm just thrilled. I'm just thrilled and he knows my name. Glory to God. And just to have him as my friend and to have him on this broadcast is just a blessing beyond measure to me. I am with. Men like you and Dr. Dawn Colbert and men like that. Whoa. I get so thrilled to be able to sit here, men that honor the word of God and put it first place. And final authority.
DR. JACKSON: Yes, sir.
KENNETH: Dr. Jackson. We're the, the people that we ministered too predominantly are, we're people of the book. We're very conscious about spiritual things. And the awareness of it that it is spirit and soul and body. But on this broadcast today, I want to go body, soul, and spirit. Most people, most of the Christian people don't have any idea of how physical exercise can affect the spirit and how it can affect the mind and the brain because the spirit affects the mind and the body, the mind affects the spirit and the body and the body affects the spirit and the mind and the brain. So I am. the two things that just excited me beyond measure. It was, you're talking about physical exercise, but then you talked about having laugh sessions. oh I like that. And I knew that the, you know, that the Bible says a merry heart does good like a medicine and from what Dr Colbert had taught and so forth. But then I found out from you that that medical science has proven that the body doesn't know the difference between a belly laugh and a put on laugh.
DR. JACKSON: That's right.
KENNETH: I'm interested. Because there's times I had to just flat put it on because there wasn't a thing. because just hahaha. Just did it anyway. But you can't do that very long. Do you? You start laughing at yourself, you know, but people in really serious pain and how exercise will fix these things and how these things that, that people are so unaware of in the Christian world.
DR. JACKSON: Brother Copeland, you open up with a lot. And so for me it's like a menu and you just want everything on the menu to eat right in terms of what to talk about and so where to start. So it's interesting, some, some interesting facts. And you mentioned about laughter with laughter. You do get a physical benefit even if it's a put on and there is a study looking at what happens even when you anticipate laughter. So even before you laugh, if you anticipate that you're going to laugh, you get benefit from that. Your heart rate changes, heart rate changes, you get good blood flow.
Yeah. In this particular study, they looked at stress hormones and the stress hormones. One was adrenaline Epinephrin, which you get nerved up and that study it dropped 70% just when you're anticipating that you're about to laugh about something funny. And then the dopamine level is another neurotransmitter that decreases. And so as a result, just anticipating that something's going to be funny has benefit Andy Anderson, world famous center here in Texas. They're amazing at tumor research dealing with all types of tumor from brain tumors all the way down. They looked at the question of laughter in brain tumor research. They do traditional research, a traditional algorithms and treatment, right?
So radiation, chemotherapy and so forth. But they kind of stumbled on laughter medicine and they found, this is a top notch research institution found out that when you laugh it, whether you're happy or not, it literally affects the cancer cells and it enhances the treatment significantly. And people live longer and have better quality of life, even with terminal cancer from laughter. So that's kind of interesting. Now you've got at least a couple of studies that we talked about in terms of of of laughter and the physical body. And then you walk that to the soul, which is the mind, will , and emotion. And so it's the decision that you make to want to laugh until you know, want to look at God's word and say, God, what do you say about this? And you say that I have this joy and the joy of the Lord is strength in Nehemiah. So I'm going to make a decision.
KENNETH: To count it. All joy count fall into different tests and trials and temptations.
DR. JACKSON: And isn't that interesting because you think. So I'm supposed to be joyful because somebody did something to me or I had a a bad, something happened to me, but it's protective. So God loves us so much, right? That he's like, look, these things are coming, but if you get into this condemnation, if you get into this anger that hypothalamus and how your brain works is going to create this cascade that can be detrimental to your health. But on the other hand, if you listen to my word as it relates to the joy and counted all joy, then that cascade and what the devil is trying to do to get you into a state of poor health, mentally and physically, it's going to be blocked because you listen to me.
And so that's why he's saying, look, science is not really apart from me. I created all the matter. I created you. I created all the science and science is my textbook or instruction book to say this is what I did. Now whether you read it or not is completely irrelevant. All you have to do is just believe him and his word and all of your process and he'll get you to get you there.
So from the exercise standpoint, one of the things that's really interesting that we've been struggling with with exercise and laughter is this opioid epidemic. So this huge epidemic that's all across the country. It's ravaging states and cities, you know, with drugs and people are trying to find something to help with pain. Well, when you laugh it will, it's actually a natural painkiller. And when you exercise, it's a natural painkiller and it works on the exact same receptors in your brain and body, just like the medication. So it not only works on the receptors,
KENNETH: Come on! Say it again!
DR. JACKSON: When you laugh and when you exercise, it is really, it's God's answer. One of his answers to pain, dealing with pain because on a chemical standpoint, a scientific standpoint, it works on the same cell receptors. So when you're laughing those neuro, the dopamine and the endorphins get going and those connect to cells on a cellular level, change the receptor, go into cell and, and then change the cell just like a narcotic or pain medication.
KENNETH: So would that be then that that's where the narcotic got the nickname dope?
DR. JACKSON: Yes, sir. From dopamine. Yes sir. Yes sir. And God may that dopamine specifically for us to be able to have that sense of wellbeing and with a dopamine, it connects you to people. And circumstances that are good that you might think are good. For instance, when you're praying in the spirit and you're spending time in the Lord and you get happy about it, the dopamine goes because it's encouraging you to do that again because it's a good thing.
So dope mean goes up and then it helps your brain and helps your body. One of the other pieces is regarding the brain. Neuro degenerative disorders like Parkinson's or Alzheimer's. Huge topics today. Well, when you exercise. So there was a study looking at the cells that God put in us, right? God put in all the stem cells, which are cells that reproduce in all of our bodies. And He loves us so much that he put these cells into us from the time we are two cells old. Okay. And in the, he put these neuro stem cells in the brain and basically said this, if you exercise and you get the appropriate blood flow to the brain, then you're going to facilitate my healing mechanism of those cells working and they can affect Alzheimer's repair, Parkinson's and repair even injuries to the brain. So exercise and laughter can do that. And that's God's mechanism.
KENNETH: Yeah. That brings up a question, I know is on the heart and mind of a lot, a lot people. What can you tell us about Alzheimer's and how it the most insidious thing that I can think about is the something that affects the memory so that you don't know that you forgot and you don't know you have it and yet it's, it's increasing and getting worse and you won't even know.
DR. JACKSON: So we talked about that memory loop, the circuit of papez. And so that's how we process information initially that comes into our five senses, through the frontal lobe, circuit of papez. And then we process that memory into something that's separate from our brains, which is a part of our mind will and emotion, which stays with us as when we leave this body. Well, the interesting pieces is that that circuit, we're not always aware of the memories as they're processed and where they go because they go to the subconscious mind.
So if the brain is broken in some areas and that loop is broken, you're not going to be conscious of when you start to lose the memory and then it's going to go on the subconscious mind. There are about 400 billion actions for a second that occur in the subconscious mind. Every couple of seconds, about 5 to 10 of those thoughts and memories come up to where we can see them. But in that moment, in those moments, if that circuit is broken because of the chemicals like Acetycholine, you know, and that's for Alzheimer's. If that's broken, then that loop doesn't, the processing doesn't work well. And again, you're not really conscious of it.
KENNETH: So where does people like us, how do we, how do we in the word of God and in our daily lives, how do we protect ourselves?
DR. JACKSON: Yes sir. And so, and you had mentioned early on about the physical than the soul. And the spirit in that is, is that when you choose to laugh, you choose the joy of the Lord because he said it. This is, he said this about you. That's important. Exercise is important because it increases that blood flow that affects the Alzheimer's and reverses the damage to the brain tissue. And those are, those are the decisions that go from your soul to your physical body and then ultimately to your spirit to really build you up and who you are in Christ.
KENNETH: So it looks like to me, you could go a long ways toward reversing that with those very same things, laughter and exercise. And of course diet like you should be in the first place. But go ahead.
DR. JACKSON: Yes sir. And especially so with a diet, you know, watching, there are certain chemical, foods that will increase dopamine and when that dopamine is increased, that helps to repair your brain. But you got to have blood supply. There was a study done looking at younger people and older people who had these accidents died suddenly so they didn't have any chronic conditions and the amount of those stem cells in the brain. So again, stem cells being cells that God gave us that will reproduce themselves. We're the same in the young people and in the older people.
So when you look at that, you go, well why does Alzheimer's and Parkinson's tend to happen in older people? For the most part and not in the younger people, especially if we have cells that can replace the bad cells and replace that loop of memory, the answer, blood supply, it's all about the blood supply. So that's why that walking that exercise to get that heart rate up, you know, 30 minutes to 50 minutes a day if you can, you know, slowly built it up, gets that blood supply to support God's mechanism, which is those stem cells. And those stem cells and can replace themselves.
People used to argue that stem cells, there weren't stem cells in the brain and there it doesn't. And there's no replacing. Once you have your brain structures, you have them. That's not true. You literally, for instance, have the Hypothalamus, which is a part of the brain. Hippocampus, I'm sorry, from memory in that loop, that entire structure gets replaced over the course of your life. You actually start with one and you end with a brand new one because of these cells, these stem cells.
KENNETH: Well praise God. Hallelujah. So basically exercise does for the body. What the word of God does for you spirit. Wow. Praise God. How much time have we got Tim? five minutes. Get every once of it.
DR. JACKSON: You know when, as as Christians, we live by faith and that's an important piece. And so, but if we don't exercise our bodies and have that blood flood work, it's going to break down and that's going to eventually have a toll on our mind, will, and emotion and then that's going to have an affect on our spirit. And so, and our perspective, everything changes. So then the devils wiles from the age of six or seven, when mom or dad yelled at me, or Mom or dad said something that I interpreted the wrong way, that was back there way in the, in the my memory banks comes out and now I'm mad at God. I mad at other people. I don't have a good sense of who I am.
And so then I said, well, I'm not going to take care of myself. So there's no way I'm an exercise. I have depression. There's a study looking at twins and in twins they looked at what happens when they had adversity in their lives early on and they went on to have chronic pain. Another study that says that 50% of people who had chronic pain went on to have depression. So you go from childhood issues that are in the underlying and then you don't exercise. Or there's some other issues that happen on top of that. And so now it's, they're playing off of each other between the spirit, the soul, mind, will, and emotion in the body. And they go back and forth.
So when you make a decision, and I call it,Y'all, so which means You choose a task. So you choose God's word and that it says, you know, I'm the healed or it says, he says I have the joy of the Lord. And he says, you know, get moving. And I do that. And then A, a stands for amazing relationships. So the relationship that you have with Christ is the most important thing that you can have and relying on his word and then with each other. And then, and last lastly, laughter because with that laughter it does so much to repair as God had, it would have it for us beyond what we can do and even exercise.
KENNETH: Praise God. Praise God! Thank you lord. Well, let's go ahead and continue. I was thinking about the DVDs of yours that I watched on this subject. Yes sir. And I believe it would please the Lord if we just make the outline that you were using for that and just continue with that. Because that's where we're lacking so much is the correlation between the exercise. I learned years and years and years and years ago, like 50 years ago, that first of all, I learned to be a doer of the word, not just to hear her only well of being a doer word is spiritual exercise. I mean, you can hear a lot of word and no doer and nothing's happening. So you got a fat, flabby spirit. Then advanced exercise was praying in tongues.
Now that not only affected my spirit, but it began to affect my mind and especially my brain because I have a way of communicating with God that edifies me and builds me up. But then I just absolutely hated the idea of exercise. I was always tended to be overweight and was, and even as a young boy in athletics, I had really, really pushed to do it. And I, so consequently I didn't want to exercise doing anything else except that. And then way back there, the Lord started talking to me about walking walk.
Well, I'd do it a few days. And back in those days I was preaching seven days a week, which was months, stupid fault. And the Lord send me one time, he said, it's not, it's not my ministry that breaking you down. It's all that stuff you added to it. And He is right. So anyway, that loop, well, I'm really tired, I'm too tired to exercise. Well I exercise and they get tired and it doesn't last but a few days and you're done. Well then the depression started and I had to fight depression before I accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior in 1962.
I want you to know I battled depression and didn't know what to do with it, you know? And then I fought it even after, after got into the ministry and I finally began to realize, and I had opened the door to that thing and I, one day I had just gone up and just fallen across a bit. I was so exhausted and I just, and that thing came over me and it had just this big knot in here that I couldn't cough up and I couldn't swallow and I had been standing against that thing with all our had and Gloria just walked in there and sat down next to me. I was crosswise a bid I was just laying there, she put her hand Doc. right where I was! she just started praying. It was so hard on me. I had to put my hands under my legs to keep from getting her hand and taking it away.
And when that happened, I recognized right then it was a spirit. I don't have, I don't have a demon in my born again spirit. No such thing. You live in a house, you can have termites in the house. You have termites in yourself. So, but I saw it and the minute she moved her hand, it left. And I've been free ever since. And we're out of time, oh my, my and in the name of Jesus, I pray for you right now. If you've been combating, any kind of depression, you listen to this man and you listened to God and you and I found out this, that depression. Come on me. I shout just Glory to God and that thing would run and run like a the scared demon he is. Amen.