Sid Roth - I Saw Angels Ripping Pages from YOUR BOOKS
Sid Roth: Welcome, Holy Spirit, go and flow. My guest, Emma Stark, is known worldwide as the Celtic Prophet. She saw the most amazing library in Heaven filled with books. And she was shocked when she saw angels ripping pages out of the books that recorded what our destiny will be. Some pages might've had your name. Why would the angels be ripping out pages of someone's book?
Emma Stark: Oh, I mean, Sid, it was just absolutely horrible, in that place of being in the word of God in Amos 3, and it's quite a strongly worded verse, and it says this, 'surely the sovereign Lord does no good thing without first revealing it to his servant, the prophets'. And you kind of think, God, no, hang on, no, just don't bring a limiting to your own hand. God, if you are going to do something, God, you just fire right on in and you do it yourself. Why God have you inserted this scripture that seems to be a limiting where you don't do something until you've spoken to a prophet? And I think in that God says, "I so love human interaction, I love friendship, I love the chit-chat back and forward. I love the walking with my people in the Spirit". So he limits himself to some things happening in the Earth according to whether a prophet has first heard it, Sid. And when I saw these pages being ripped, I mean, the noise of the angelic, when you hear things in the Spirit and they're super amplified, it was wailing, crushing, lamenting this...
Sid Roth: This was the wailing, the crushing...
Emma Stark: Of the angelic...
Sid Roth: Of lamenting by the angels.
Emma Stark: The angels.
Sid Roth: Because people haven't fulfilled their God-given destiny.
Emma Stark: Well, prophets hadn't spoken it. Prophets hadn't spoken it, which is why I'm in Amos. And so the angels are going, "No prophet prophesied that, rip out. No prophet prophesied that, rip out. No prophet prophesied that, rip out. No prophet prophesied that, rip out". And there was a trash can, we would call it a rubbish bin in Europe, but this pile of what was going to end up as trash of the stories of lives. And the Lord says, "Where are my purified prophets? Where are my people? Not even prophets, let's not make it exclusive. Where are those who will just hear what I'm saying? Where the word of God says all can prophesy. Where are those who live in the Spirit by the Spirit, Spirit-led, not just Spirit-filled. Where are ... The cry of the angels, the cry of the Lord himself, where are those who will throw themselves at my feet to hear my voice? Because I've limited myself in Amos 3 to action only when a prophet or prophetic person has heard it first". The Bible says desire gifts, especially prophecy. But you got to kind of sync that up with Romans where the book of Romans says, it says, "Jacob, I loved Esau. I've hated". Why? Esau despised spiritual things. And that got him into the place where God says, "I hate you". There is no other record in scripture of God saying he hated somebody. That terrifies me. "Jacob, I have loved," we're now in Romans 13, "the Jacob I have loved". Why? Because he desired spiritual matters, spiritual blessing, spiritual authority, spiritual birthright. So I don't want anybody watching at home or in the audience here to go, oh, well, it's okay because you happen to have a title. I might have a title, but we can all hear the voice of God. And I think that that must be dealt with in the most robust way. That if you think you can't hear God, you have got to literally get your own hands laid on yourself and you've got to pull that lie off your shoulder. You've got to go into self-warfare, self-deliverance. You've got to say I will not partner with that lie. And you've got to do a spiritual act. I will not partner with the lie that I cannot hear the voice of God. I will not believe that it's for this elite specialist group. I will believe that I can hear God's voice. And that God actually is maybe not doing some things in my nation because nobody bothered to prophesy it.
Sid Roth: You say there is a shift coming and God is fast-tracking things. What does this mean?
Emma Stark: I'm always, oh, Sid, I'm always a little bit nervous when we say the word fast-track. I think God is fast-tracking people, but it is through the process of fire and testing. And if you have felt the fire of God, if you have felt pressure, if you have felt misunderstood, if you have felt belittled, if you have felt mauled, if you have felt an assignment against you in any way, I think you've got to take that as a fast-tracking mercy of God to raise your character. And then literally you kind of pat yourself on the back and say hallelujah, I'm on time, I thought I was out of time, hallelujah, I'm right on time.
Sid Roth: So what you're saying is the devil loses either way, if you're going through that turmoil, I'm on a fast track, if you're out of it, I'm on a fast track. No win Devil.
Emma Stark: Yes, yes. You said something earlier to me, I'm going to quote liberally, it came out of your mouth, I'm more intelligent than Satan you said. This fire, this heartache, this hardship is my promotion, is my fast track. Why my friends? Because God needs purified voices. And part of that fast-tracking and part of that suddenly hijacking into destiny is because he needs your voice. He cannot have your voice come forward through yesterday's filter, through your backyard opinions, through your own preferences and your own indoctrinations. He must have his voice come through your voice in a purified way. And that's what God is up to. He's going to have purified spokesmen and women.
Sid Roth: Without holiness we won't even see God.
Emma Stark: Oh totally. I mean, come on.
Sid Roth: In fact, I know that this next move of God's Spirit must be accompanied by holiness.
Emma Stark: Yes.
Sid Roth: The two go together, they're twins as you use. Now we're witnessing the emergence of a new generation of reformers. It's your time to move higher. You may be the next reformer. Emma's daughter, who moves in the next generation prophetic, will be with us when we return. will be with us when we return.
Sid Roth: 21-year-old Jessica Stark just graduated from Edinburgh University and was raised in a family where visions, dreams, angelic encounters normal. I want to hear about Jessica's first encounter in Heaven.
Jessica Stark: I was 10 and the Lord took me...
Sid Roth: You started at 10.
Jessica Stark: I started at 10.
Sid Roth: I didn't even know who Jesus was until I was 30.
Jessica Stark: I know, 10. And he wasn't playing around with me, he didn't mess a about. He took me straight up into the throne room. And I remember how vivid it is, because I keep going back to it now. And he takes me straight up to the throne room.
Sid Roth: Excuse me, tears are coming to your eyes, why?
Jessica Stark: I think it just makes me so emotional now sitting where I am thinking, father, you had such a massive grounding for me as a kid, and the power that I feel so blessed that I was able to see that from so young before my imagination and my wild like child heart was not tarnished. I got to encounter the Lord so straight on. So I was up in the throne room, and he is not messing about, he takes me straight to the front. And the first thing I see up there, similar to that in Ezekiel and Revelation, is this angel with four heads. And then I see an angel with eyes all over its body and double wings the size of its body that cover itself.
Sid Roth: Excuse me, did you know much about the description in the Book of Revelation?
Jessica Stark: Not at all, forgive me, but not at all. And I hadn't even read Revelation at this point. I mean, yeah, I was raised in a Christian family...
Sid Roth: But you're describing it exactly.
Jessica Stark: And I went, after the encounter, I went straight to my parents and I told them everything and I explained everything to them that I'd seen. And they said, "Jessica, that definitely was the Lord because read this". And they showed me Ezekiel and they showed me Revelation where exactly what I saw. I was like, "Well, that must've been God". And it couldn't have been just my imagination or it couldn't have just been my child-like imaginary friends. But actually I was like, "Lord, that was so you, because there could have been nothing like it that I could have even dreamt up by myself". So those encounters in first moments in the throne room where I was chucked in at the deep end, I didn't question it. And I think now my faith levels, because of that, because I go back to those moments and I'm like, "Lord, nothing can match that". Nothing can compare to that majesty and that greatness of even just your angels that now my faith is like I can't even doubt a house move. I can't even doubt a ,grade in my exams. Why? Because I know how great you are from the age of 10.
Sid Roth: Tell me one miracle because you operate in miracles now, that has occurred in your ministry?
Jessica Stark: One of the most profound ones I think for myself, I was at a young conference, and I was a bit wild growing up.
Sid Roth: Is that an understatement, Emma?
Emma Stark: But in an enthusiastic way, I don't think you're particularly a rebellious type of human being, but you out-worship ... Are there things you've not told me? She out-worships everybody else I know. She's so extravagantly devoted. A bit like David coming up to Jerusalem, who's dancing so fervently. But then I think, Sid, we've always felt like that as a family. And David, my husband, who's in the audience here too, we have said we will out-worship every other person in the room. Because if we won't, there's no model to our teenagers. And I have two teenage, she's 21, but I have two teenage boys. And who are my teenage sons going to learn from if we are not exuberantly, wildly extravagant. And she out-jumps all of us.
Sid Roth: Tell me one miracle?
Jessica Stark: I am on the streets, and I see a man with his daughter and his son, and he's in a wheelchair. And I go up to them and we're doing kind of this evangelistic thing. And though I may be confident and bold, evangelism's not always been my favorite part. But I did it anyway. And I went up to him and I said, "Hey, do you know Jesus"? And he was like, "No". And his two children were definitely not and nor do we want to. And I was like, "Okay. Well, I believe in a God that heals and a God that performs miracles. And I see you're in a wheelchair". And I said, "Would you believe in God if I got you to stand up now and walk"? And he said, "Well, I would believe in anything that got me to do that". So I prayed for him and I said, "If you feel any changes, any tingling". You pray that thing, then you ask them, on a scale of one to 10, where's the pain? On a scale of one to 10, what are you feeling? He said, "Well, I'm paralyzed from the waist down. So I can't even tell you if I'm in pain or not". And I said, "Okay, listen, tomorrow is Sunday, we have a church service. If you feel anything overnight, you get back to me and I'll see you at church". We go to church the next morning, we're setting up, and I see this man wheeled in by his daughter and his son. And I'm like, "God, what's going on"? And I walk up to him...
Sid Roth: A little excited.
Jessica Stark: A little excited. I'm like, "Jesus". So I walk up to him and I'm like, "Well, you're in church, so what happened"? And he says, "Jessica, I'm tingling, I'm feeling my toes".
Sid Roth: Wow.
Jessica Stark: And I was like, "Oh Jesus". I was like, "But we're not stopping there". So I was like, "Great, a tingle's great, but we can do more". So I said to him, I said, "You've made it this far, you've stepped inside a church building". I said, "That took faith and that took bravery". And so I grabbed his hands, and his daughter pushed him and he stood up. And from then he was like, "I've never stood up before". And he starts shaking. And he starts moving. And I'm like, "Oh Jesus". And he starts walking and dancing. And he gets rid of his wheelchair. And I saw from the age, I think I was 12 at that point, a paralyzed man get up and walk.
Sid Roth: It seems that there is such a shaking going on. What does the world need to hear, Emma?
Emma Stark: Well, I think we know that we say, oh, God loves you and God heals you. And God says ... Do you mind if I get out of my chair? Because we are in Ezekiel 21 and this is the God who isn't going, "There, there". The God in Ezekiel one has got his fists up and it says, "God beats his fist". It's such an extreme scripture, isn't it, Sid? And you think, hang on, hang on, can we just take that bit out? Because God, you're sounding like you're wild for justice. You sound like you're moved by pain. And so I think that scripture where it's not the God who says they are there, as much as some of us need that, but the God who says I am wired where there is injustice to come and turn ... I am wired for being in the places where there needs to be transformation and turn around. If you have had pain or something legal not break through for you that you needed to break through or withholding of inheritances or let's even talk more really about the war and the third world war that's coming and some of the economic shakings we know are going to come, you need to know more than a God who goes, "There, there". You need to know a God who beats his fist. A God who is a God who says, "I come down, I step in, I fix this".
Sid Roth: It sounds like the lion of Judah.
Emma Stark: Yes.
Sid Roth: The roaring lion of Judah.
Emma Stark: Yes, yes.
Sid Roth: Emma, what does the statement mean, there is a second wave coming?
Emma Stark: Oh yes, this is right from Ezekiel where Ezekiel is prophesying over the Valley of the Dry Bones. And this is really regarding the prophetic movement. And those who prophesied prophets, everybody who's interested in Revelation said, I think we had many years of just brilliance of pioneer statesmen and women who brought the word to the Lord in days where we didn't even know that you could prophesy. And in many senses, the batons in their hands are now being passed on. And we are grateful for what they have done. However, there is an authority and a wildness and prophets with teeth and a sense of those who will tell the truth, who are not all about the honorarium or not all about the am I going to be light? Because you and I know no prophet in scripture would win a popularity contest.
Jessica Stark: True.
Emma Stark: So there is this glory of, and I'm not asking people to be rude, it's not about that, let's be more elevated than just thinking it's about being rude, it's not. It's about God giving this wind of authority into the people who love his voice. But it's a purified wind, but it's a life giving. Because of course when Ezekiel prophesies the second breath, because he prophesied two times, there is a sense of being able to raise the dead. And so the second wind, now here's Ezekiel, I don't think that's just symbolic, I think Ezekiel is literally standing in a genocide graveyard. I think you and I might know that there are some genocide graveyards in the world. You need some Ezekiels who are able not just to do a prophetic commentary, not just able to say the voice of God matters because we've had that for decades. Not just like I'm going to prophesy according to my preferences. But the purified life-giving, transforming, resurrecting, authoritative word of God that is literally going to empty genocide graves like Ezekiel did. That's the second wave.
Sid Roth: All right, let's do that right now. I want everyone watching that does not have experiential knowledge of God through Jesus as their Messiah, Savior, and Lord, to repeat this prayer. If you don't have it, you know it, if you have it, you know it. You know. Repeat this prayer after me out loud: "Dear Jesus. Forgive me for my sins. I believe your blood washes away my sins, and I'm clean. It's so good to be clean. And now that I'm clean, Jesus, come and live inside of me. I make you my Messiah. I make you my Savior. And most of all I make you my Lord. Amen". Jessica, look in the camera, and you begin a prayer. And then I would like your mother to finish it.
Jessica Stark: Father, I speak to everyone in this room, and I speak to everyone watching online, and I say open up our eyes and our ears. The prophesying, as Corinthians says, is for all. That hearing your voice is for all. That seeing your majesty and your glory is for all. Father, I just pray right now to the children and the children's children and the next generations. And I speak to those generations I say, Father, with the ease of your sight and your hearing and your encounter through dreams and visions, be re-awoken. Father, that we are not dulled down or blinded or have a lens cap over our eyes and our ears when we see you, Father. But we see you clearly and we hear you clearly and we meet you so we know your purity and the intensity of your fire and your burning love and desire for us, Father. I thank you, Father, where we are blessed to stand under your glory. I thank you, Father, where we get to hear and prophesy your words that where it is said, it is done. Thank you, Father, that is not constricted to a generation or a people group, Father, that that is for all in the name of Jesus.
Emma Stark: Yeah, in the name of Jesus. So raise your hands so that you might catch it. This is what the rabbis used to do of old. They would raise their hands and over the people so they could catch something. So in the name of Jesus, I liberate and loose you to be one. And you need to catch it. Okay? Wherever you are, catch it. I liberate and loose you to grab hold of a seer sight capability. That you can come up like Ezekiel and Daniel and John the Revelator, and I liberate you into the place of seeing again, of hearing, of knowing, of feeling, of perceiving, of understanding with clarity who your God is. And that you might be able to know what it is to be with Him where he is. In Jesus name. Amen.
Jessica Stark: Amen.
Sid Roth: Did you hear how she ended that prayer? Amen. So be it.